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			ok this may be some stupid questions but im not too familiar w/ how this works...  
i have my nj firearms purchases id which basically allows to purchase rifles and shotguns but im looking to buy a glock 17. so i know i gotta go thru the whole process again to get a permit for that handgun, but how exactly do i do that do i buy first and wait for the id or get the id then buy any one with in the time period??
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Gotta be 21, and then the same deal as the fire arm ID card. Go to police station, fill out paper work, pay fees, and I think you need letters of recommendation.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			yes i do meet the age requirement... but when do i actually purchase? before and wait to pick up??, or  after within a certain time period??
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			1. Go to the police station 
2. Ask for paperwork for handgun permit. 
3. fill it out and give it back 
4. Pay fees 
5. Wait until you get old (took me 4 or 5 months) 
6. Get fingerprinted. 
7. Get your Permit 
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11. Buy one (within 90 days of receiving your permit) 
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				Gotta be 21, and then the same deal as the fire arm ID card. Go to police station, fill out paper work, pay fees, and I think you need letters of recommendation. 
			
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				No, this isn't college admissions office, no one wants to read that crap. But they will talk to your neighbors and call your references. 
			
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			ok, makes sense so gotta buy within 90 days of receiving the permit... thats all i needed to know...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			be prepared to wait anywhere from 1-3 months, and youre now limited to 1 gun a month.  you can always put a deposit on whatever gun you want to hold it, then get the paperwork.  but paperwork must come first.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			true.. 1 gun a month is fine for me... and how would it work if i want to purchase from budsgunshop.com ???? they say they send the item to a local dealer near me so is everything handled thru the local dealer???
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			if you set it up through a website it needs to go through an FFL or a local dealer. Make sure your local dealer tells you what they want either written on the box, or know approx. when it will be coming in, a way to contact you, etc.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Off topic kinda but can you own a fully auto AR15 in New Jersey?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				be prepared to wait anywhere from 1-3 months, and youre now limited to 1 gun a month.  you can always put a deposit on whatever gun you want to hold it, then get the paperwork.  but paperwork must come first. 
			
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 That's kinda a waste, imo. Once you have the paperwork it takes 10 minutes to walk out of the store with a handgun. Or if by some miracle they don't have it, you will have it the next day because they have to overnight it. So I don't really see a point in giving them a deposit.    
As for buying online. You have to make arrangements with your local FFL. Then buy the gun, and ship it to them. Local FFL will decide on how much they will want to charge you to transfer you the weapon and then you are all done. Usually it's 50ish bucks I think. But it varies.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Off topic kinda but can you own a fully auto AR15 in New Jersey? 
			
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			actually you CAN own a fully automatic weapon in NJ. BUT you need a class III permit which is hard to obtain, plus I believe you have to pay to hold on to it. It is basically a permit to buy and sell firearms to the public, so you would only need it if you intend to open a shop.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				actually you CAN own a fully automatic weapon in NJ. BUT you need a class III permit which is hard to obtain, plus I believe you have to pay to hold on to it. It is basically a permit to buy and sell firearms to the public, so you would only need it if you intend to open a shop. 
			
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			Yeah you need a valid reason to get a class III. Such as a gun shop owner, gunsmith, tactical training facility, something of that sort. 
 
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			What about registering a firearm from another state? Once I get my house in NJ I will have to register my firearm. Anyone know what I will need to do? Then after that I may want to purchase again, do I have to go through all the crap like someone who has never owned a firearm?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				What about registering a firearm from another state? Once I get my house in NJ I will have to register my firearm. Anyone know what I will need to do? Then after that I may want to purchase again, do I have to go through all the crap like someone who has never owned a firearm? 
			
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 Thats interesting, so if I want to purchase in NJ I have to get all the permits and whatnot but if I have my grandfather buy something for me in PA I can bring over the state border?
 
Also if NJ is a reg optional, what is the big deal about having the smaller length barrel and collapsable stock on a weapon like the AR15? What the state doesnt know wont hurt them then? Or does the registration only apply to handguns?
 
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			i think ar 15's cant have more than a 15 rd clip in nj and 16" barrel tops and no modifications and fixed stock... 
 
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				Thats interesting, so if I want to purchase in NJ I have to get all the permits and whatnot but if I have my grandfather buy something for me in PA I can bring over the state border? 
 
Also if NJ is a reg optional, what is the big deal about having the smaller length barrel and collapsable stock on a weapon like the AR15? What the state doesnt know wont hurt them then? Or does the registration only apply to handguns? 
 
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 You still need to be a registered firearms owner in NJ to transport guns and use them on state property like firing ranges and hunting reserves. The collapsible stock is just a dumb NJ rule. And I asked my friend who works at Brick Armory, 10rd mag in a rifle is the limit, 6 in a shotgun, 3 in a hunting weapon, handgun is unlimited I believe.
 
As far as the "what they dont know wont hurt them" theory, yes basically. Its the same principal as no cats on a car, or no emissions, or building without a permit. Its all fine and dandy until you get caught and when you get caught violating firearms laws they shove it up ur ass good.
 
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