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			well on the 4-26-2010 i was hit on the drive-side door form someone not yielding at a U-turn on 22, in Springfield NJ.  
 
now i got the police report and tried to call there insurance then was told they haven't had insurance since 2008 everyone told me that if you don't have valid insurance you get your car  tow automatically but they drove away no ticket or anything and i had to tow my car because the door wouldn't close.     
 
now i have a witness statement on the police report & it was there fault.   
 
what can i do if they don't have insurance? sue? i claimed it with my insurance but i just have basics coverage
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			do you have uninsured motorist coverage?  if not small claims court I guess.  I'd talk to the cop who is writing the report about the insurance info.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				do you have uninsured motorist coverage?  if not small claims court I guess.  I'd talk to the cop who is writing the report about the insurance info. 
			
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			did you let your insurance company knwo you were involved in an accident? If not, nows a good time to apply for uninsured motorist coverage, and give it a good 24hrs lol. you can sue, but it's goign t o be all tangled up in **** for a while, and getting payment from them may be a challange if they have no money to buy insurance in the first place.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			dude just call ur insurance co and let them handle it all, thats what u pay them for... ive been in a **** load of accidents and never once had to call the other peoples insurance, i call my guy and he does all the work... better yet since u sed u have unisured motorist coverage, just call them and ask these questions to ur insurance co... beats waiting for other to post on here about their experiences lol
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				did you let your insurance company knwo you were involved in an accident? If not, nows a good time to apply for uninsured motorist coverage, and give it a good 24hrs lol. 
			
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				did you let your insurance company knwo you were involved in an accident? If not, nows a good time to apply for uninsured motorist coverage, and give it a good 24hrs lol. you can sue, but it's goign t o be all tangled up in **** for a while, and getting payment from them may be a challange if they have no money to buy insurance in the first place. 
			
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			Seeing as you said you have uninsured motorist coverage, then file with your insurance company ASAP.  They will handle everything, and your rate should not be affected.  If you have an insurance agent, just call them. 
 
You will probably still be out the deductible amount you carry.  
 
If the car needs body work in other areas, its a good time to get an estimate on making all repairs at once because its generally less expensive than if you go back later to get the bumper painted, etc. 
 
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				No offense but that completely false...shops don't charge customers by the quart.  A lot of shops will give you a little paint in a bottle as a courtesy but you aren't entitled to anything.  They charge a flat rate rate per hour for materials, not by each material used. 
			
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			no.  epa says no to that one.  like frosty said, they can mix a small amount into a single stage touch up style paint, but they can not give you a can of thinned paint straight from their guns. 
 
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				Not false at all.  That flat rate covers the cost of the materials consumed by the job, whether its a pint or half a gallon.  It all averages out.  So if they mixed a quart, sprayed 2/3 of the quart, ask for the left over.   The customer has effectively paid for the materials used, including overage. 
			
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 Are you REALLY going to sit here and tell me the customer is entitled to it?  Are you REALLY going to sit there and say the customer "paid" for the ENTIRE quart of paint.
 
Hey, they should get the clear, the reducers and the sandpaper too, after all they paid for all of it too.  Maybe they should get what's left of the buffing pad too, there could be some life left in it too.  You realize the "materials" charge covers more than just paint right?  There are a TON of materials costs that go into repairing and painting a car.
 
I guess my 6yr + years and an estimator/appraiser has been wrong, all this time I should have been giving the customer's the materials along with their final bill   
Sorry if I'm coming off as a douche but it drives me nuts when people give advice regarding subjects they know  nothing about.  The customer isn't entitled to ANY of the left over materials, PERIOD.  As a courtesy shops will give a little bottle of paint for chips and scratches, nothing more.  You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				no.  epa says no to that one.  like frosty said, they can mix a small amount into a single stage touch up style paint, but they can not give you a can of thinned paint straight from their guns. 
 
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			well called my insurance they said if worst comes to worst then they will take all legal action needed. see i didn't know that even if it's the other person fault i still file with my company at all. 
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				well called my insurance they said if worst comes to worst then they will take all legal action needed. see i didn't know that even if it's the other person fault i still file with my company at all. 
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			even if its "totaled" cant you just get it fixed anyway? it would depend on whether or not you wanna spend the money.. 
 
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			05-04-2010, 02:45 AM
			
			
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				beat up thirdgen parts car in Toms River?  I think I know where it might have went.... 
			
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 "cough" ted "cough"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-06-2010, 11:13 AM
			
			
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			as far as i know. when a vehicle is "totaled" the company is supposed to take the vehicle , correct? they wanted to do that with my truck, but actually they just said since my truck really wasnt that bad i could just keep it plus the amount the damage was. check with them and make sure, sucks one morning they are coming to take it away without you knowing
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-06-2010, 03:49 PM
			
			
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				as far as i know. when a vehicle is "totaled" the company is supposed to take the vehicle , correct? they wanted to do that with my truck, but actually they just said since my truck really wasnt that bad i could just keep it plus the amount the damage was. check with them and make sure, sucks one morning they are coming to take it away without you knowing 
			
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 From my experience is they'll either take it away or let you buy it back when it's totaled.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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