Hall of Fame for Eric Lindros? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

Slow-V6 · 06-22-2010, 06:26 PM

They are talking about him for the Hall of Fame. I would vote Him in. He was the most dominant player I have ever seen. Cant believe there are talks about him in the HOF. Makes me feel really old!!

Slow-V6 · 06-22-2010, 06:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-BfI1vNQww

Man I miss those days!!

BonzoHansen · 06-22-2010, 06:38 PM

He had HOF talent but imo the body of work is weak, like his head

redsoxsstink · 06-22-2010, 08:37 PM

the hall of fame is for people famous for their talent, not for their douche-baggery.

1QWIKBIRD · 06-22-2010, 09:32 PM

I agree...

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

He had HOF talent but imo the body of work is weak, like his head

He didn't play at the high level for a long enough period of time. Injuries suck, but they are part of the game.

Bernie Nichols played longer and better than a point per game guy.

Tim Kerr shredded teams for a span of about 5 years, but then injuries brought him down. 4 straight 50+goal seasons

Pavel Bure....the Russian Rocket....another point per game guy

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Originally Posted by redsoxsstink

the hall of fame is for people famous for their talent, not for their douche-baggery.

lots of douche-bags are in the hall of fame (for every sport) so despite his douche-baggery stunts, that's not enough to keep him out. I bet if Rod Brind'Amour had a vote, Lindros wouldn't get it.....

He just didn't sustain the high level of play long enough. He was a force of nature, but ultimately nature bit back.....

Frosty · 06-23-2010, 05:17 AM

Lindros should never be inducted into the Hall of Fame, no way, no how.

JL8Jeff · 06-23-2010, 07:23 AM

His point totals say it will probably happen, but not this early.

BonzoHansen · 06-23-2010, 08:12 AM

he's got an mvp or 2 as well, no?

all I know is seeing him in ranger blue made me cringe.

NastyEllEssWon · 06-23-2010, 10:03 AM

saying that lindros doesnt deserve hof recognition because of his concussions is like saying steve young doesnt belong in the hof because of his.

head injuries suck...1 can ruin your career. especially with what we know with how concussions work. 20-30 years ago you played with the concussion and were chastised for complaining about something silly like a ''headache''

r0nin89 · 06-23-2010, 11:56 AM

Thats a great video, music and all

Saying that someone doesnt belong in the hall of fame for hitting good in hockey is like saying that player in football doesnt belong in for a good sacking record. Hitting is part of the game, whether its limited or not its still part of the game.

On a side note it totally reminds me of the kid at Gwar who actually said to me in the pit all pissed off "Why the **** did you push me"

BonzoHansen · 06-23-2010, 12:59 PM

its not specifically about his head. Its the muted career results due to injury. There are 1000s of athletes that had hof potential and even 3-5 hof quality years but their careers were cut short by injury and there overall body of work is not hof caliber and so no hof.

The rare exception is a guy like sandy koufax because his 5 or so years were insanely good.

Slow-V6 · 06-23-2010, 05:46 PM

Like I said in my 1st post.Lindros was ,during a 4-5yr run, the most Dominent player in the league. Not to many people in any sport can say that! For me that alone should get him in the HOF!

NastyEllEssWon · 06-23-2010, 06:03 PM

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its not specifically about his head. Its the muted career results due to injury. There are 1000s of athletes that had hof potential and even 3-5 hof quality years but their careers were cut short by injury and there overall body of work is not hof caliber and so no hof.

The rare exception is a guy like sandy koufax because his 5 or so years were insanely good.

so then answer this....like i asked before...should Steve Young, Earl Campbell, Sean Alexander or Marshall Faulk miss out on HOF recognition because their careers were cut short by injuries or at the very least ending their dominance in the league???

1QWIKBIRD · 06-23-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

he's got an mvp or 2 as well, no?

all I know is seeing him in ranger blue made me cringe.

that wasn't as bad as seeing him try to hang on with the dallas stars.....that was sad

1QWIKBIRD · 06-23-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

so then answer this....like i asked before...should Steve Young, Earl Campbell, Sean Alexander or Marshall Faulk miss out on HOF recognition because their careers were cut short by injuries or at the very least ending their dominance in the league???

Sean Alexander, I think you mean Shaun Alexander.....no HOF for you.

Earl Campbell....is already in???

Marshall Faulk no problem....your in buddy welcome aboard. 13 years as an NFL running back, 18,000 plus rushing and receiving yards, good enough for me.

Steve Young is already in ?????

Terrell Davis is a situation similar to Lindros, monster stats, monster player, short career......Should TD be in the HOF?????

It wouldn't be a crime if Lindros made it, but he would need to catch a weak class and even then I think it won't be for a while.

Think the flyers ever add them to their team shrine????? He derserves that, no doubt, but the bad blood runs soooo deep.

NastyEllEssWon · 06-23-2010, 06:59 PM

lol i know some of those might already be in the HOF...not sure on it...but theyve had similar careers....awesome breakout years followed by a slew of injuries which ended their production or their careers all together...

terrell davis is the best example as you said. 2 superbowl rings and a short career...id say he deserves to be in the HOF as without him and his 2k yard years Elway wouldve been in the Marino boat.

now that brings up another question....should players that produced year after year after year, broke records but never won the big show be in the HOF.....like marino????

enRo · 06-23-2010, 07:34 PM

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now that brings up another question....should players that produced year after year after year, broke records but never won the big show be in the HOF.....like marino????

This will always be an issue when discussing HOF entries. They said the same thing about A-Rod (pre-steroid scandal) because he's had such a remarkable career but no WS rings.

It's a mixed opinion.

IMO, a hall of famer is someone who changed the game for either their team and/or sport. Lawrence Taylor is a perfect example... offenses changed strategies when they were facing him and he STILL had a remarkable career, though his performance was probably due to coke rage

. Even if you took his 'stats' out, he was still a dominant presence on the field for his team, and against the opposition. If Big Ben had another concussion that forces him to quit lets say this year, he will without a doubt be in the HOF because he led the Steelers to multiple titles without the Marino/Favre career statistics. Though, Marino is a good exception because he had such a stellar career. Lindros was a beast, and IMO he deserves to be in the HOF, but I picture him to be the type to get into the HOF when hes in his 60's

So, to answer your question Nasty, I think championships are a bonus to being inducted into the HOF, but there are those select few players that had such an outstanding career that they will get in there with or without championships.

Frosty · 06-23-2010, 08:00 PM

Is winning a championship the end all/be all to a HoF entry? No. But it has a big impact IMO. Should Lindros be in the HoF for 4-5 years of good hockey? IMO no, he was ONE of the most dominating players in the league(not the best IMO). 4-5 years and no championship doesn't get you in IMO. Choking in the Finals doesn't get you in. Getting knocked the **** out in Game 7 of the ECF in '00 and putting your team in a bad hole doesn't get you in.

He's not the Dan Marino of hockey, not even close.

NastyEllEssWon · 06-23-2010, 08:01 PM

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Is winning a championship the end all/be all to a HoF entry? No. But it has a big impact IMO. Should Lindros be in the HoF for 4-5 years of good hockey? IMO no, he was ONE of the most dominating players in the league(not the best IMO). 4-5 years and no championship doesn't get you in IMO. Choking in the Finals doesn't get you in. Getting knocked the **** out in Game 7 of the ECF in '00 and putting your team in a bad hole doesn't get you in.

He's not the Dan Marino of hockey, not even close.

more like the mcnabb

BonzoHansen · 06-23-2010, 08:12 PM

Marino held major passing records. He got saddled with bad teams.

BurninrubberGT · 06-23-2010, 10:29 PM

stevens>lindros

GP99GT · 06-24-2010, 06:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVeqzYgTELk

Frosty · 06-24-2010, 10:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhQEux2_0Ns

Slow-V6 · 06-24-2010, 10:36 PM

Okay and neither of those teams won the cup!!

The bottom line is that He was one of the most fear'd players in the NHL during his prime if not the most fear'd. Just like how Jim Brown was,Shaq was, and how Randy Johnson was. He was fear'd for the way he hit and for what he could do with the puck. He was a household name that pretty much everyone knew. The 3 big offensive players in the NHL back then that I think of were Lindros, Federov, and Jagr.

NastyEllEssWon · 06-24-2010, 11:15 PM

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Okay and neither of those teams won the cup!!

The bottom line is that He was one of the most fear'd players in the NHL during his prime if not the most fear'd. Just like how Jim Brown was,Shaq was, and how Randy Johnson was. He was fear'd for the way he hit and for what he could do with the puck. He was a household name that pretty much everyone knew. The 3 big offensive players in the NHL back then that I think of were Lindros, Federov, and Jagar.

lol you compared lindros to jim brown and shaq???? really?? even i wouldnt go that far.

id say lindros had more of a Daunte Culpepper or Steve Mcnair type of career. did good a few years, injuries persisted and never quite got over the hump.

shaq has a handful of rings to prove his dominance.