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			Hey guys, 
I have a final project to do for my autocad class, and was wondering if you could help me brainstorm some ideas.  Basically, I have to design an assembly of parts (it can't be anything too crazy, its my first autocad class).  I want to do something for an F-body or LT1.....What do you guys see for our cars that could use a good redesign?    
I'm pretty excited to do this, even if it is a school project haha
 
I'm open to any suggestions.  Thanks for the help!
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			Just 2D assembly type stuff?
		 
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					Originally Posted by SeanC  Hey guys, 
I have a final project to do for my autocad class, and was wondering if you could help me brainstorm some ideas.  Basically, I have to design an assembly of parts (it can't be anything too crazy, its my first autocad class).  I want to do something for an F-body or LT1.....What do you guys see for our cars that could use a good redesign?    
I'm pretty excited to do this, even if it is a school project haha
 
I'm open to any suggestions.  Thanks for the help! |  I'd keep it to something that everyone knows such as rims. It would give you some arc, circle, line, trim, and extend practice. Are you drawing it out in 2D or 3D? Any rendering?
		 
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			Define not too crazy, I have afew plans on my mnd of what I would love to see be made, but I never had the technology, or training to do CAD.
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			console for a 3rd gen with cupholders? lol
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			Yeah,  just a basic 2D assembly drawing (havn't learned 3D stuff yet).  Hmmm, define not too crazy...well basically i have been taking AutoCAD for 5 weeks now, so take that for what you will.  This is due the 8th of August, so I can't go too crazy designing something beyond my capability.  Just figured it would be cool to work on a project related to my obsession with my car...haha.  Much cooler than designing a dumb chair or something! 
Rims aren't a bad idea, but they don't incorporate an assembly of parts too well (not to say that they're not complicated enough).
 
LOL I take it you want cupholders in your third gen V?  If I had a 3rd Gen with the same problem I'd consider it   
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			composite LSX style intake for the LT1
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					Originally Posted by SeanC  Yeah,  just a basic 2D assembly drawing (havn't learned 3D stuff yet).  Hmmm, define not too crazy...well basically i have been taking AutoCAD for 5 weeks now, so take that for what you will.  This is due the 8th of August, so I can't go too crazy designing something beyond my capability.  Just figured it would be cool to work on a project related to my obsession with my car...haha.  Much cooler than designing a dumb chair or something! 
Rims aren't a bad idea, but they don't incorporate an assembly of parts too well (not to say that they're not complicated enough).
 
LOL I take it you want cupholders in your third gen V?  If I had a 3rd Gen with the same problem I'd consider it   |  Put the rims on studs and nuts. You can do a nice cut away with the rotor and studs. Nothing too over the top. You can send me a PM if you get stuck. If I can't help Mark68 does some crazy chit with solid modeling so I'm sure he would be good for advice.
		 
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			2D = lame!  
I don't the detail you are going for, but you could easily do an opti.   
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			a true dual exhaust system with good clearance and chambered mufflers dumped at the axle or out the bumper. throw in a couple cut outs too    
how bout a dual ram air intake. have the inlets down by the fog lights and then route it right up into the throttle body with a single inlet that contains the maf. stick the air filters somewhere up in the engine bay area and keep them enclosed in the inlet tubes.
		
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			Rear axle diaper.
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			IRS brackets for our cars?
		 
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			yes, that is simple.  that or a new space shuttle I guess.     
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					Originally Posted by CHRIS67  I'd keep it to something that everyone knows such as rims. It would give you some arc, circle, line, trim, and extend practice. Are you drawing it out in 2D or 3D? Any rendering? |  who has the cool trans am style lugnuts, you or mark?  that seems good and simple.  get him a pic of those.  A conical seat, makes it a bit more than a hex with a threaded hole in the middle.
		
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			I like the wing / spoiler idea.  An assembly of parts for a three piece wing, with compound curves, straight lines, beveled edges and maybe incorporate a center third brakelight for additional componentry. You can demonstrate / indicate the positive or negative slope to the wing by showing the degrees-of-angle chart off to the side (since its a 2D drawing), hardware assembly to the decklid, and wiring ports for the brakelight. 
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			This thread proves why autocad is the suxor, ProE ftw!
		 
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					Originally Posted by CHRIS67  Put the rims on studs and nuts. You can do a nice cut away with the rotor and studs. Nothing too over the top. You can send me a PM if you get stuck. If I can't help Mark68 does some crazy chit with solid modeling so I'm sure he would be good for advice. |  I like Chris's idea of the wheels, studs and rotors. You could make a pretty good 2D layout of this assembly in AutoCAD. You may even want to use the longer Trans Am style lug nuts for your layout. I know that you have just started working in AutoCAD, so if you need any help, just let me know. I have been working in AutoCAD for 20 years and a 3D program called PDMS for 10 years.
		 
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  This thread proves why autocad is the suxor, ProE ftw! |  I agree but after working with all 3 I much prefer Solidworks over ProE.
 
Sean, opti would be cool. Rims would be pretty easy on account you can polar array pretty much everything.
		 
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			Who doesn't prefer Solidworks over ProE?  I remember the contractor I worked for was so hard core about going to ProE, they hired a guy just so they could have someone there that could do it in case they needed it.  
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			How much does software cost for such a program, and what requirements are needed for the computer?
		 
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			I dunno how much SW is, but its not cheap.  As for as computer requirements, it ran fine on my old Dell from college, that was 2002-04.  Im sure they have made enhancements since then.
		 
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  This thread proves why autocad is the suxor, ProE ftw! |  have you used any other program than Pro E
  
you can buy inventor.... which is autodesk (i think that is the company's name) 3-d cad program.  It's all personal preference on what you want to use for a CAD program.  There are more user friendly programs then Pro E
  
i would keep it simple! CAD work is very time consuming and details can prolong your project way longer than the class time allows.
  
i like the third gen cup holder idea or the rims.
  
I wouldn't do anything really specific..... if you teacher knows nothing about cars, he/she will not know what they are looking at and can't assess the drawing accordingly, which might have an impact on your grade.
  
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