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		|  07-27-2010, 12:45 PM | #1 |  
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				Volt pricing announced, GM starting to take orders
			 
 
			
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That's a lot of money I think, but it is a cool design. We'll see how the market reacts
		 
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			Id do alot of other things with 41k before i bought a hybrid Civic look-alike.
		 
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			gotta start somewhere. over in europe (not sure exactly where) they are using pure electric mini's in some sort of test group. the users leave the car plugged in when not in use and can sell stored energy back to the grid. car could end up paying for itself in given time. pretty cool concept.
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					Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider  the users leave the car plugged in when not in use and can sell stored energy back to the grid. car could end up paying for itself in given time. pretty cool concept. |  if it is a pure electric car how does that work?  Is the car generating power on it's own somehow?
		 
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			i dono possibly it was a hybrid. in either case they were leaving the cars plugged in to store energy at night and sell it back during the day. we are a ways away from that but you gotta start somewhere.
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			40k is crazy.
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			If gas was still hovering around $5 per gallon this would be a success story. I can't see it taking off at that price today though.
		 
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					Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider  i dono possibly it was a hybrid. in either case they were leaving the cars plugged in to store energy at night and sell it back during the day. we are a ways away from that but you gotta start somewhere. |  my town hada one year lease with 2 test mini cooper electric cars... hated them and sent them back
		 
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					Originally Posted by T69SS  Id do alot of other things with 41k before i bought a hybrid Civic look-alike. |  could buy a C6 Z06 used
		 
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					Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon  40k is crazy. |  Hybrids are not cheap either.
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					Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy  could buy a C6 Z06 used |  Exactly, a nice one too
		 
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		|  07-27-2010, 03:27 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by WildBillyT  Hybrids are not cheap either. |  The Honda Insight is starting at $19,800, Toyota Prius is starting at$ 22,800 according to the manufacturer websites. Many would consider them the leaders of the current hybrid market. However, the Volt is a different design so the Volt pricing may not be as relevant, if it stays true to the concept design. But 40k is a lot of money regardless.
		 
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			The car is not $41k.  Read on…U.S. taxpayers who buy a Volt will qualify for a federal tax credit of $7,500. Other states, such as California, are offering additional tax incentives. 
 After accounting for the federal tax credit, the net price of the Volt will be $33,500 for most initial buyers.
 
 The automaker also will offer a three-year leasing option on the Volt, allowing customers to carry it for $350 per month after a $2,500 down payment.
 
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					Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy  could buy a C6 Z06 used |  I doubt there is even one buyer out there whose decision is either volt or use vette.  Can you at least work out a more realistic comparison?  Like maybe a comparing this $33,500 car to another hybrid at least.
 
The conspicuous greeny will hop on this car.  It’s like buying expensive clothes, you don’t have to but people do.  And this is being built in limited production.  They are saying 40,000 in two years.  That is 3 months of Camaro sales.  So I’m guessing the demand is high enough to justify the price.
		
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					Originally Posted by 91chevywt  The Honda Insight is starting at $19,800, Toyota Prius is starting at$ 22,800 according to the manufacturer websites. Many would consider them the leaders of the current hybrid market. However, the Volt is a different design so the Volt pricing may not be as relevant, if it stays true to the concept design. But 40k is a lot of money regardless. |  Cheaper than I remember, but I've never seen a Prius sold new for under $25k.
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			Volt is more then a hybrid.  It is a pure electric vehicle with a gas engine as a range extender.  The engine does not run the car, only recharges the batteries.  
 40 miles on electric power, 300 on the 8 gallons of gas you will have.
 
 For comparision, the new Nissan Leaf is a full electric car with no gas engine extender.  Its the size of the Versa, and has a range of 100 miles.  That will be priced at 33k, plus you have to purchase the unique charger that you will need to charge the car.
 Volt charges on 220 in 3 hrs, 8 hrs at 120.
 GM also offers an OnStar app that can control the car and monitor it.  The app can be downloaded off GM's site.
 
 350 a month with 2500 down?  Thats awesome!  The Volt will come standard with a lot of really cool features.  Full OLED dash and IP, capacitive touch controls for radio, hvac, etc etc, plus lots of Eco-friendly interior parts.
 
 If you are cross shopping used Z06's, CTS-V's or 5th gens with this car, then maybe you arent the target market.
 If you are, NJ will be one of the first states in where you will be able to purchase the Volt.
 
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			i was really considering one.  still am.  for the 2500 down and 350 a month i may still consider it.
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			will it be able to safely merge on to the highway?... any numbers?
		 
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			Same as an average compact car. I think in sport its low 9s to sixty in eco mid tens.
		 
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			Anybody know the reason for the $7500 tax credit?
		 
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					Originally Posted by 91chevywt  Anybody know the reason for the $7500 tax credit? |  cuz its an electric car
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					Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider  gotta start somewhere. over in europe (not sure exactly where) they are using pure electric mini's in some sort of test group. the users leave the car plugged in when not in use and can sell stored energy back to the grid. car could end up paying for itself in given time. pretty cool concept. |  
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					Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider  i dono possibly it was a hybrid. in either case they were leaving the cars plugged in to store energy at night and sell it back during the day. we are a ways away from that but you gotta start somewhere. |  I'm sorry but being a CS major with a bunch of EE work these statements have me laughing pretty hard :P
		 
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					Originally Posted by 91chevywt  Anybody know the reason for the $7500 tax credit? |  All electric/hybrid vehicles have varrying levels of tax credits based on the kilowatt rating of the battery.   
The Volt maxes out the credit.
		 
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					Originally Posted by V  i was really considering one.  still am.  for the 2500 down and 350 a month i may still consider it. |  clear proof of your add    |  
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			hehe.   when i first considered it, i started asking my chain of command how they would provide me an outlet in the barracks parking lot to charge it at night.  I got many strange looks.   then i spoke to Al about it and decided to pass.  but once my V is paid off and im back in NJ, i might be in the market for a commuter car and that lease seems reasonable.
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