Rutgers student commits suicide after cyber bullying

[qwikz28]

Dang.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/ny...e.html?_r=1&hp

[BonzoHansen]

I just read that, almost posted it. poor kid, those two unpeeled his whole world in a matter of minutes. a bit extreme on the kid's response, but still very sad. imagine being his parents? they got hit with just about a lifetime's worth of sadness in like 2 days. I feel awful for them.

why those kids thought it was ok to do what they did amazes me.

[FlyingDutchman]

crazy.

[sweetbmxrider]

thats ****in terrible. what the **** is wrong with the kid who wanted to watch his roommate make out with a dude? ****in creep

[BonzoHansen]

he wanted to mock him and in essence make him cry from what I can tell. I know what I've read is only 10% of the story, but based on that the kid taping comes off as a homophobic bully. there will be more news on this I am sure.

[Mike]

this will be the one warning for this thread, any posts that can be interpreted as offensive or obscene will be deleted and infractions will be given.

[qwikz28]

his sexual orientation is irrelevant, intimate life is to remain private. I don't care who you are. period. I don't even like it when my girlfriend posts up about our relationship status or something like that on facebook. Some things should remain sacred and out of the grasp of the public, and video of hookups is DEFINITELY one of them. What that kid did is a mistake that any of us can make. I have been known to take a joke too far myself. So unfortunate it had to end that way, but that kid will have to face the consequences.

[baddest434]

truely sad for his family!

[maroman88]

american pie

[WildBillyT]

I know a kid who did this. Killed himself because he was gay. Couldn't deal with the ridicule so he killed himself by running his car in a closed garage. The pain his family and friends dealt with at the funeral was unimaginable. I think the kid crying the hardest was the one who used to call him all kinds of names and burn him hard.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by maroman88

american pie

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

I know a kid who did this. Killed himself because he was gay. Couldn't deal with the ridicule so he killed himself by running his car in a closed garage. The pain his family and friends dealt with at the funeral was unimaginable. I think the kid crying the hardest was the one who used to call him all kinds of names and burn him hard.

We are only human. I'm sure that kid felt true remorse for his actions. Sometimes, that is what it takes

[Mike]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

when jim was trying to get video of himself and the exchange student

[Tsar]

I'm just humored by the fact that someone is sissy enough to take their own life over some "internet bullying"...

So people found out, what's the big deal?

[thunder]

Originally Posted by Tsar

I'm just humored by the fact that someone is sissy enough to take their own life over some "internet bullying"...

So people found out, what's the big deal?

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its tragic but still

[RU_Weskot]

Originally Posted by Tsar

I'm just humored by the fact that someone is sissy enough to take their own life over some "internet bullying"...

So people found out, what's the big deal?

1) How much balls does it take to willingly take your life?

2) How much balls does it take to jump off a bridge that ranges between 200-600 feet above the water?

3) How much balls does it take to acknowledge the fact that when he hits the water it's no longer water, but equivalent to solid concrete?

4) You don't know what this kid's past is. Maybe he wasn't out to his parents. News reporters that interviewed a friend said that he was very shy, introversive, and it was probably really hard for him to confide in someone, especially if he was scared to come out to his family (this is a MAYBE, not a definite)

5) "So people found out, what's the big deal?"? Imagine your world being flipped upside down in an instant and everything you thought you had control over was suddenly spiraling out of control and there was nothing you could do about it now. Your own personal armageddon. Now everyone knows about you, rumors are spreading about you, snickers behind your back (possibly)

6) Imagine the mental stress and psychological damage this did. It isn't some everyday hazing or college prank. The kid thought he was safe, secure, and trusted his roommate, above all else. And in an act of "humor" the roommate antagonizes him by making fun of his sexuality or his interests

Now, kind sir, I ask you HOW you find that humorous... because I for one didn't find it f@!cking funny when a random kid in my high school went out of his way to contact my older sister via facebook that I was being intimate with another guy, and even told her that he knew I wasn't ready to come out to my family. THEN my world came spiraling out of control, and since then I've been treading on thin ice; watching my back constantly fearing that I'm going to be disowned or killed for being what I am. Fearing that my parents will murder me because they can't fathom their son being gay.

I know part of what went through Taylor's mind. And what drove him to unfortunately end his own life has gone through almost every homosexual's mind at one point or another... Myself included.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by RU_Weskot

1) How much balls does it take to willingly take your life?

2) How much balls does it take to jump off a bridge that ranges between 200-600 feet above the water?

3) How much balls does it take to acknowledge the fact that when he hits the water it's no longer water, but equivalent to solid concrete?

It takes balls to keep living your live, to adopt to changes in it, and to overcome them. Taking your life is pretty simple, and is often done on impulse. People who jump off the bridge don't think about water being equivalent to solid concrete, they think about their poor little lives, and how much worse they have it than anybody else. People who take their lives are selfish, because they only think about what's good for them.

4) You don't know what this kid's past is. Maybe he wasn't out to his parents. News reporters that interviewed a friend said that he was very shy, introversive, and it was probably really hard for him to confide in someone, especially if he was scared to come out to his family (this is a MAYBE, not a definite)

I don't care about his past, life goes on, gay or not. So he is gay, what has changed? Wal mart will be open tomorrow, sun will come up, and I will have to go to work, again. Man up, and continue your life.

5) "So people found out, what's the big deal?"? Imagine your world being flipped upside down in an instant and everything you thought you had control over was suddenly spiraling out of control and there was nothing you could do about it now. Your own personal armageddon. Now everyone knows about you, rumors are spreading about you, snickers behind your back (possibly)

I'm not one of those people that cares about rumors, so I wouldn't care about people talking behind my back. As far as my world being flipped upside down, well I laughed, because you have no idea. Just trust me, it has been flipped, re-flipped, and then I flipped it some more. I'm still here, I could blow my self away with a .45 but what fun would it be if I don't know what happens at the end?

6) Imagine the mental stress and psychological damage this did. It isn't some everyday hazing or college prank. The kid thought he was safe, secure, and trusted his roommate, above all else. And in an act of "humor" the roommate antagonizes him by making fun of his sexuality or his interests

Everyone of us is damaged here, some way worse than others. But I don't see a reason to off yourself. There isn't ANYTHING in this world that you could say to me that would make me take out my gun and blow my brains out. And as I said before, people who commit suicide are selfish, they will never have my sympathy. Hell, they can be my family member, and I will still "hate" on them. In fact, I do.

[jts98z28]

i dont see anything funny with someone dying doesnt matter if they took their own life or someone took it from them, i feel sorry for his family its a horrible situation

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah, heard quite a bit about this since this morning. Catching someone having buttsecks with a dude is a terrible reason to end your life, and to destroy your family's. So what, move away, start fresh. You knew 3 of 59 people in that dorm, how many of them actually saw it--even if it was all 59, big whoop, people change dorm buildings every day. Still need to get away? Transfer. After losing a 13-year old friend to suicide, and 20 year old friend to a coma, I realized just how terrible the impact on the friends/family is. I have little patience for suicide.


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RIP, but my prayers are with his family more than anything.

[BigAls87Z28]

Such a shame that kids who are gay feel that this is the only way out in a society that shuns them. Its embrassing to say the least, and not for the kids, but for us as a nation.
The roommate who video taped him was pulling a prank, but could probably not imagine the ramifications of what happened. Kids dont understand the power of technology and how it effects people. Stuff like this gets out of hand quickly.

[Frosty]

I hope these kids have their ****ing lives ruined. I hope they get to see what's it's like to not have any privacy in jail. It's a damn disgrace. Our private lives are just that, private. It may not seem major but if this kid wasn't out and was still closted it's a big deal. To have something like that exposed is a huge. I had a friend that off'ed himself due to that reason...he couldn't deal with the rejection he thought he'd face. In the end our group of friends would not have cared...what someone does in their bedroom is no one's business. But when you hear people drop the fag word, when the stereotype is that every gay is some prancing priss it was too much for him to overcome. When you hear super religious and hypocritical sheep condemn you to hell it makes it tough. So Tsar, it's not black and white...however I agree with you that it's an impulse and usually the wrong decision.

This kid was too young to end his life, too young to have to go through what these ******** did. I hope they tie their action to his death in a legal manner.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Such a shame that kids who are gay feel that this is the only way out in a society that shuns them. Its embrassing to say the least, and not for the kids, but for us as a nation.
The roommate who video taped him was pulling a prank, but could probably not imagine the ramifications of what happened. Kids dont understand the power of technology and how it effects people. Stuff like this gets out of hand quickly.

Not sure if it was a prank man, from what I gather from the articles I read it was meant to be malicious. I could be wrong or I could be interpreting it wrong.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Stuff like this gets out of hand quickly.

Yup. Would it have been more acceptable if he shot up the school first, Virginia Tech-style? Cho wasn't even gay, he was just upset because he was an outcast. People overreact all the time, however pysch damage is a real problem.

The fact of the matter is that this guy was troubled and threatened and did not know what to do. Not everybody has an ironclad strong will to press on and make changes in their life in the face of adversity. It's also easy to say things like that without all of the facts (which I don't have either). I can understand that suicide is the easy (sometimes coward's) way out, but in no way do I find the situation humourous.

[LS1Hawk]

Originally Posted by Frosty

So Tsar, it's not black and white...however I agree with you that it's an impulse and usually the wrong decision.

I read somewhere awhile back about people who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and survived. It was a small number, about only 26 or so. They all suffered internal injuries and broken bones. But when asked what was the last thing that went through their minds after they jumped, most of them said something to the extent of "What have I done." So whatever it was in their life that made them jump, once they were off that ledge, suddenly it did not matter and they knew they made a huge mistake. Just think about all the people who didn't survive and if that same thought went through their minds as well.

[Frosty]

I wouldn't doubt that....someone who is at that point isn't mentally stable to begin with. Unfortunately ending your life is a big mistake in most cases. But it's their life and their choice(another reason why I support doctor-assisted suicides but that's another discussion for another time).

Either way the kid felt he had no other option and for that I feel bad for him. I still hope the other two get punished as bad as they possibly can be.