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Will be driving the 2012 Buick Verano over the next two days.  
 
Any questions, comments, concerns, or anything else you would like answered about the car or anything related to it?  
 
Quick overview: Verano is Buick's entry level car that slots below the Regal.  Verano is more like a mini-Lacrosse.  It will be standard with Buick's Intellilink Infotainment system.   
Built on the same platform as the Chevy Cruze and Volt, it shares a lot of its interior design from the Opel Astra.   
Verano comes standard with a 2.4 liter 4cyl instead of the 1.8 or 1.4T engine found in the Cruze.  There will be a turbocharged 2.0 engine later in the year, mated to an optional 6spd manual trans.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-24-2011, 08:36 PM
			
			
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			10-24-2011, 08:38 PM
			
			
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			10-24-2011, 08:39 PM
			
			
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			10-24-2011, 09:12 PM
			
			
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			10-24-2011, 09:49 PM
			
			
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			10-24-2011, 10:00 PM
			
			
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				Price of the 2.0T and six speed? 
			
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 I believe Verano will top out at around 30k, loaded loaded.   
POSSIBLE GS trim...maybe.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-25-2011, 11:19 AM
			
			
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				Yeah, it probably looks better in other colors but it sticks out way too much. it was the first thing I noticed... 
			
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			10-25-2011, 11:42 AM
			
			
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			What are all the controls on the steering wheel? 
Also, whats the button between the seats in the center console area below the shifter? Heat warmer?
 
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			10-25-2011, 11:48 AM
			
			
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				What are all the controls on the steering wheel? 
Also, whats the button between the seats in the center console area below the shifter? Heat warmer?
 
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 Left side is cruise control buttons, right side are the radio controls buttons.  
 
Button in the center near the shifter is the electronic parking brake.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				For a base price of just $23,470 (including destination charge),  passengers inside the Verano are treated to standard leatherette/fabric  seating surfaces, cloth-wrapped A-pillars, dual-zone automatic climate  control, a sliding center armrest, steering wheel-mounted audio  controls, Bluetooth, remote engine start and full power accessories. A  high-resolution seven-inch LED backlit touchscreen with GM's Intellilink technology  (complete with voice control, integrated Pandora Internet radio and  Stitcher application) is also standard on entry-level models.
			
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				and IIRC they changed the EPA estimates a few years ago. A handful of cars i looked up are now lower after the changes. I'm sure with a relaxed driver they could see 23-24 city in it easily 
			
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				Doing 70+mph today, I was pulling down 27.9mpg 
			
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