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Old 06-19-2006, 01:19 PM   #26
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Life in prison?? WTF, car crushing is easy to deal with but life in prison? So a rapist would do less time than a street racer "in most serious cases" ... unless u killed somebody, thats wrong.


a convo between inmates

- yo home slice what u here fo?
- street racing
- how long?
- fo life dawg
- that ****s wacked
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- how about u?
- ass raping, bend over now biatch.
- ohh

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Old 06-19-2006, 01:21 PM   #27
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this seems kinda rediculous though.
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Old 06-19-2006, 01:44 PM   #28
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car crushing is straightup bs
take away racers liscence for a few years or something.
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Old 06-19-2006, 01:48 PM   #29
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Im with you on that one Shane.
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Old 06-19-2006, 01:48 PM   #30
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a convo between inmates

- yo home slice what u here fo?
- street racing
- how long?
- fo life dawg
- that ****s wacked
- fosho *****
- how about u?
- ass raping, bend over not biatch.
- ohh
Thats just like the infamous convo

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"Damn u here for life?"
-Yea, no perolle, how bout you?
"Ripped a tag off a mattress"

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Old 06-19-2006, 02:01 PM   #31
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Old 06-19-2006, 02:20 PM   #32
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I'm all for eliminating street racing, but crushing cars would prolly never fly in most of the US. I say take the cars and put 'em up for auction. Taking away the racer's license doesn't do a whole lot, most of them will just keep driving without one...which means that they are also driving without insurance. Putting them all in jail is also a burdon on taxpayers though....

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Old 06-19-2006, 03:03 PM   #33
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whats the difference between street racing and speeding? and what if a cop interprets a car as racing when really all he was doing was speeding? i can imagine this being somewhat fitting (yet slightly over-the-top) for organized street racers (like those guys at Ave P). but for those of us that pull up next to another car at a light and race the other dude to the railroad tracks (which are conveniently 1/4 mile apart)?

another thing, my friend was once speeding down route 17 in the winter in a rwd bmw. he went to take an exit ramp and hit a slick spot and fishtailed. the kid not being too good at drifting (this was still original fast and the furious days) couldnt correct it and spun into the snow. a cop saw him do this and instead of helping him out wrote him up a careless driving ticket cause the cop said he was intentionally trying to fishtail the car. imagine getting your BMW crushed for that?
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:20 PM   #34
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whats the difference between street racing and speeding? and what if a cop interprets a car as racing when really all he was doing was speeding? i can imagine this being somewhat fitting (yet slightly over-the-top) for organized street racers (like those guys at Ave P). but for those of us that pull up next to another car at a light and race the other dude to the railroad tracks (which are conveniently 1/4 mile apart)?

another thing, my friend was once speeding down route 17 in the winter in a rwd bmw. he went to take an exit ramp and hit a slick spot and fishtailed. the kid not being too good at drifting (this was still original fast and the furious days) couldnt correct it and spun into the snow. a cop saw him do this and instead of helping him out wrote him up a careless driving ticket cause the cop said he was intentionally trying to fishtail the car. imagine getting your BMW crushed for that?
i agree 100% speeding should be put in the same catigory as street racing. Street racign is safer. its late at night, and on roads that have not alot of cars on them. Then you get some dumb ass comin home from work on rt. 80 and he has to cut in and out of lanes doin 120mph. His car should be the one gettin crushed. I personal can carless if street racign goes on or not. But i sure love goin to watch on a nice night... and hell i might even run a few times....
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:44 PM   #35
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People die everyday. From stupid ****, normal ****, abnormal ****, wierd ****. But thats an ok, acceptable fact of life. Yet, when someone gets killed doing something people ENJOY, its suddenly some horrible thing that should be stopped at all costs.

Cut me a ****ing break. Im so sick of these street-racing-is-bad preachers. Theres ALOT of bad **** that happens to people, yet all this country seems to focus on are the ones that people enjoy doing.

And crushing cars? Are you serious? How in the hell could ANYONE agree with that. Thats like saying if someone is shooting fireworks off at their house, their house should be crushed. And this IS a good analogy because fireworks kill people, are dangerous, and fun at the same time. So do you agree with that too?
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more people died from falling coconuts than street racing in 2004, should we outlaw coconuts?...less deaths from street racing FTW
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:52 PM   #37
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more people died from falling coconuts than street racing in 2004, should we outlaw coconuts?...less deaths from street racing FTW
hell no! those coconut girl scout cookies are FTW!
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:53 PM   #38
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apparently none of you have ever lost a friend to a street race..

If they started crushing cars for street racing, people might actually stop doing it. Impounds and points dont work. No one wants to see their hard earned money get crushed. I'm not agreeing with the 'modified for street racing' part of the article, but if they can prove you were racing someone else, take the ****ing car and crush it like a soda can.
Ive been street racing for a couple years. On abandoned back roads with long lines of visibility beyond the racing area, with no cross streets in the racing area, and usually with spotters 1/2 mile up and down the road to warn of incoming traffic. Sometimes i will race from a roll but ONLY IF there arent any cars in front of me

That whole crushing idea is definately F*cked up. More people die per year in DRUNK DRIVING RELATED ACCIDENTS than street racing related accidents heres some stats for ya--


Traffic fatalities in alcohol-related crashes fell by 2.4 percent, from 17,105 in 2003
to 16,694 in 2004. The 16,694 alcohol-related fatalities in 2004 (39% of total traffic
fatalities for the year) represent a 4-percent reduction from the 17,308 alcohol-related
fatalities reported in 1994 (43% of the total).
The 16,694 fatalities in alcohol-related crashes during 2004 represent an average
of one alcohol-related fatality every 31 minutes.

this was from http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd...004/809905.pdf
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:55 PM   #39
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hell no! those coconut girl scout cookies are FTW!
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:32 PM   #40
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:56 AM   #41
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I'm all for eliminating street racing, but crushing cars would prolly never fly in most of the US.
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edit: say I drove up to canada and had some chance WOT encounter with a (canadian plated) mustang... would they crush my car too or just the mustang?
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:47 AM   #42
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There is never any excuse for the government to take someone's personal property. The problem is that the government does things to make an example and show they have the ability to do stuff like this. I think a better solution is to heavily fine these people. If fines don't work then there is a penalty tier system. After 1 time fine and loss of license, 2nd time you do jail time. 3rd time you lose the car and a HUGE ass fine.

There has to be some sort of logical way to do stuff like this. The problem is they don't make it even across the board. Drunks don't lose their cars. Drug addicts don't lose their cars. Old people with cataracts (sp?) don't lose their cars.

It's a ******** law I busted my ass to buy this car and do what I want to do to it. Not only that but with all the safety equipment it's probably safer then most cars on the road. Not saying street racing is smart but 99.9 % of us have done it or at least went WOT on the parkway/turnpike at least once.

You can't just rip something away from someone for a first time being caught offense.
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:04 AM   #43
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It's a ******** law I busted my ass to buy this car and do what I want to do to it. Not only that but with all the safety equipment it's probably safer then most cars on the road. Not saying street racing is smart but 99.9 % of us have done it or at least went WOT on the parkway/turnpike at least once.

You can't just rip something away from someone for a first time being caught offense.
i think judging by the number of people who feel the same way you do, its clear that you guys would at least think twice before racing someone again, and probably wouldn't do it, because you know what you've put in your car and don't want it taken away because of a ******** law.
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Wow a 2004 that was modified - hope he had full coverage! LOL
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i think judging by the number of people who feel the same way you do, its clear that you guys would at least think twice before racing someone again, and probably wouldn't do it, because you know what you've put in your car and don't want it taken away because of a ******** law.
well, that's very true, but that doesn't justify the law...at all. i'm sure if the schools murdered a family member everytime you forgot you forgot your hw, you would never forget your hw again, but the rule is still excessive and not just.
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There has to be some sort of logical way to do stuff like this. The problem is they don't make it even across the board. Drunks don't lose their cars. Drug addicts don't lose their cars. Old people with cataracts (sp?) don't lose their cars.
i do believe NY takes all cars involved in drunk driving convictions then i think they are sold at auction eventually and the previous owner is not allowed to bid. Also many states do take cars if they are involved in trafficing drugs and such.
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Crushing your car is beyond rediculous for street racing, taking away someones lisence will stop them from driving, anyone can still buy another car over time and do the samething. Though it may sound dumb; but how many times have people been caught doing wrong things more than once? Cars are replaceable, driving previleges aren't. Bonehead law in my opinion, i would fight tooth and nail to save my car.
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Crushing your car is beyond rediculous for street racing, taking away someones lisence will stop them from driving, anyone can still buy another car over time and do the samething.
One of the reason that NJ has the highest car insurance in the country is because we also have one of the highest percentage of unlicensed/uninsured motorist on the roads.

Taking away someones license (especially a street racer) isn't going to stop them from driving, in many cases. I know several people who don't have a license and still drive on a regular basis.

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I know several people who don't have a license and still drive on a regular basis.

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in fact, several of our very own club members do/did just that.
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