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08-19-2008, 09:49 PM
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ehh dont ginx it. I donno how to adjust the rockers its dark have no more helping hands timing? haha whats that. But we shall see fellas we shall see.
If the timing is off will that harm hurt the motor if I start it even if ishut it off if it sounds off or something. And what if the rocker arms are way to tight and I start the motor will that hurt the valve train?
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08-19-2008, 09:52 PM
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Rockers should just be a slow process. I am not sure the firing order of the engine your using but its a standard process. Spin the crank 180 each time and you get the intake valves and then the exhaust. Tighten the rockers to zero lash and then add whatever your rockers say too. From there you should be good to start her up, and if you want, while its running tighten them a bit to quiet them down. As for the timing, thats something I have not a clue on.
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08-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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How to adjust rockers: http://www.classiccarauto.com/impala...t_valves.shtml
Be careful and take your time with them. Too tight can mean snapped pushrods, which make a mess inside of a running engine.
- Justin
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08-20-2008, 04:35 PM
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you need a timing gun to set the timing....that or bubba
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08-21-2008, 01:00 AM
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Well I got everything together.
From what I believe the distributor is set but needs to be adjusted and the rockers are on kinda just winged them but made sure not to over tighten them.
I tried cranking the motor and the fuel line kit I got was leaking, and my floats were fudged up.
I had gas SPEWWING out of my secondaries everytime I cranked the motor over.
I removed the fuel line kit to adjust the fuel bowls found out the adapter/fittings for the fuel inline are fudged.
Any way I rigged the carb up again and kept trying to crank the motor over but it WONT START.
It cranks, sounds like it kinda wants to start will make a big POP/backfire sound here and their but nothing.
I dont know what to do any more. Anyone wanna help a dude out and lend a hand at figuring this out?
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08-21-2008, 06:21 AM
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I'd double check the firing order then move on to timing.
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08-21-2008, 08:04 AM
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Between the mangled cam bearing, the no-way-it's-going-to-seal oil pan gasket, the carb, and the timing...this project has taken on a life of it's own.
If it runs, go play the lottery that day.
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08-21-2008, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersyboyy
Well I got everything together.
From what I believe the distributor is set but needs to be adjusted and the rockers are on kinda just winged them but made sure not to over tighten them.
I tried cranking the motor and the fuel line kit I got was leaking, and my floats were fudged up.
I had gas SPEWWING out of my secondaries everytime I cranked the motor over.
I removed the fuel line kit to adjust the fuel bowls found out the adapter/fittings for the fuel inline are fudged.
Any way I rigged the carb up again and kept trying to crank the motor over but it WONT START.
It cranks, sounds like it kinda wants to start will make a big POP/backfire sound here and their but nothing.
I dont know what to do any more. Anyone wanna help a dude out and lend a hand at figuring this out?
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Distributor 180* out?
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08-21-2008, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Distributor 180* out?
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That is what I was thinking too. Firing on the wrong stroke.
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08-21-2008, 10:01 AM
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You did get all the tools out of the engine before you're attempting to start it? RIGHT???
Bring the engine to Top-Dead-Center. Turn it over, after the #1 cylinder valve closes and the Piston is at the top of the stroke ( and the Timing mark on the balancer should then be at 0 on the timing marker ).
The rotor on the distributor should be pointing towards the #1 Cylinder. Install the cap with the #1 spark plug wire facing straight forward. This should give you the basic timing to get the engine started.
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08-21-2008, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRIS67
That is what I was thinking too. Firing on the wrong stroke.
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180 out...been there!!!! ever been 2 or 3 teeth off??? thats fun too...you should just buy my 350....bad ass ready to go
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