socket in distributor shaft??!?? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 07:16 PM

I was using a coupler wiht a flat head attached to an extension attached to my drill to prime the oil pump. Went to pull it out coupler with flat bit fell in. Extension and drill came out coupler and bit are somewhere in that motor. How do I get it out.

I dropped the oil pan but it looks like i have to remove the transmission and the raise the engine to get it off!? 2 days of work and im farther behind then I was before. Any info can help and Id appreicate the negative "o your screwed" HAHA THAT SUCKS" comments to be kept to ones self.

Thanks

GP99GT · 08-19-2008, 07:18 PM

i'd say youll have to drop the pan, whatever it takes to do that...unless somehow you can get it to fall down to the oil drain

on a ford you could take the timing cover off since the dizzy is in the front and try to get it out of the pan that way

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 07:25 PM

get a magnet pen.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 07:27 PM

I dont think it actually went to the pan...i tried to turn the motor over with the socket and it gets to a point where it wont move any more so im guessing now somehtings making contact with the bit and keeping it from moving, is this coupler stuck in the oil pump, the crankshaft or what? Any fbody guys know how to remove th oil pan without taking out the tranny.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 07:28 PM

This is WAY past a magnet pen I wish it would have been that easy.

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 07:31 PM

I dropped the pan on my 4th gen. Its possible, but it takes a while.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 07:55 PM

Well that thing fell in the pan. Im trying to get it out now.

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 08:06 PM

How big is it? Can you stick a magnet on the bottom of the pan, drag it to the oil drain and then use a magnet pen to get it out?

Tru2Chevy · 08-19-2008, 08:39 PM

you don't have to remove the trans, but you do have the raise the motor a few inches to get the pan off.

- Justin

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 08:42 PM

I have a big magnet i used to try to at least find where in the pan the socket is by listening to the drag of metal to metal contact. Cant find it. Iv looked form every angle with a little led lights cant find it. Its gotta be wedged somewhere in the drain pan. What kind of damage will this cause if I CANNOT find this thing and run it considering IT IS wedged in the bottom of pan? Ill be up all night trying to find this thing and puttin the res tof the motor back together.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 08:43 PM

unbolt the engine from the tranny then unbolt the motor mounts, then raise the motor? Or just jack the motor up and pull the drain pan out?

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 08:45 PM

Both, but I think manuals have a harder time with it than autos... And its not fun. I had a car lift when I did mine, and we still couldn't fully get the pan off. The windage tray doesn't clear the crank unless you really get it up there. And you really want to make sure that that piece isn't sitting on top of the tray where it could get smacked by the crank.

Tru2Chevy · 08-19-2008, 08:46 PM

Take a guess at what's gonna happen to the socket if the crank or a rod hits it while the motor is spinning at 5,000 RPM?

I wouldn't even think about firing that engine with a socket in the oil pan.

I know it sucks man, but it's not as bad as constantly worrying when your motor is gonna randomly seize up on you because you didn't feel like doing the work to get the pan off.

- Justin

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 08:48 PM

Is there oil in the pan? And do you know a good welder?

Cut the bottom of the tray off and get the part out, weld it back up.

BonzoHansen · 08-19-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Take a guess at what's gonna happen to the socket if the crank or a rod hits it while the motor is spinning at 5,000 RPM?

Ooohh oohh ohh, pick me, I know the answer! PING!

The pan has to come off.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 08:49 PM

so i gotta unbolt the motor form the tranny!? DAM im going to be having a LONGGG NIGHT...

BonzoHansen · 08-19-2008, 08:51 PM

Really? Damn.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 08:51 PM

oil is empty oil pan is that cheap chrome **** so its probally aluminum can you weld that, o and no thats a crazy idea that i will laugh at with you but im going to take the pan out one way or another

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 08:51 PM

Nooooo, get a jack under the balancer. Raise it up till you can unbolt the mounts. Remove the big ass bolts, and raise the motor till she hits the windshield. Then try your luck at removing the pan. You may get lucky and get it down enough to get your hand in there.

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 08:53 PM

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You may get lucky and get it down enough to get your hand in there.

Thats what i was hoping for. alrite im going to head to the car now if any opne has any more advice text me 732 309 4148.
Thanks for the help fellas.

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 08:57 PM

Good luck!

johnjzjz · 08-19-2008, 09:02 PM

it might be to late now i did not see this till now but the mistake made was turning the motor over it let the piece roll around the cam gear - if it were me i would go for the intake lots of room than i beleve its stuck between the block and the cam gear - but i have no idea what kind of motor you have so its a guess - jz

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 09:11 PM

But wouldn't that have jammed the drill? Or maybe the cam isn't in?

Jersyboyy · 08-19-2008, 09:43 PM

When the motor got stuck turning it by hand it was a flexplate bolt on the intake pan.

That piece indeed fell into the pan thank you you guys I was able to raise the motor high enough to get my whole hand in their and pull it out.

Im totally leghumping shownomercy and tru2chevy. Thanks fellas.

Now on to figuring out how to adjust the rockers and putting the dizzy in and making it work right

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I feel so relieved!

LTb1ow · 08-19-2008, 09:46 PM

Easy sailing ahead!