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Originally Posted by unstable bob gable
I remember seeing a Cosworth Vega in a magazine years ago, and the owner had ditched the stock FI for some side draft Webers. Had all kinds of other mods, too. Pretty neat car from what I remember.
And to see a Vega now a days that hadn't rusted on the show room floor is just plain good.  |
all true!
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
600 lbs. difference stock. Cozy Vega is 2700 lbs. stock, Opel is 2100 with the 1.9 Litre, and in the teens with the 1.1 Litre engine and options missing.
Power to weight ratio
DZ 302 Camaro - 0.10 hp/lbs. ( w/ 400hp and 3,765 lbs.)
Opel/Cozy engine - 0.12 hp/lbs ( w 240hp and 1,900 lbs.)
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I love weight talk. a race trim z28 is probably closer to 3200 lbs. it's longer & wider too, I'd guess and that should help on a road course, at least to offset some of the weight. To be apples to apples let's estimate a basic race trim z28 with a far more reliable drive train
600hp / 3200 = 0.1875 hp/lbs
550 / 3200 = 0.1719
huh.
vega has a half decent suspension for racing. not sure what the opel has or how easy it is to get parts. can you even get parts for it? you cannot overlook the entire package in the single name of weight.
plus it would be silly to take apart a good cosworth vega. it's a cool little car.
I'd rather build a mustang II with an LS motor in it. put some stickies on it and some other stuff and go racing. far better than an old opal and a troublesome cosworth motor. An ecotech, a honda vtec or hell even a full built quad 4 is better. I can think out of the box. But you have to identify the bad, more expensive, albeit maybe 'cooler' boxes lol
different can be cool. the cosworth vega is cool. a fiero with a northstar or lsx for instance. it can be stupid too, like a 3rd gen with 24s on it, one with a turbo 2.8L.
I'll take cubic displacement for $500 Alex.
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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11-12-2012, 03:45 PM
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Well then Bonzo, lets do this, go buy, or build an authentic DZ Z28, Ill build my Cozy Opel, and see which one is better. Numbers are numbers really, until you put them to the test. Then, when were done, we'll put our bills together of what it cost, and see which one was more bang for you buck.
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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11-12-2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Well then Bonzo, lets do this, go buy, or build an authentic DZ Z28, Ill build my Cozy Opel, and see which one is better. Numbers are numbers really, until you put them to the test. Then, when were done, we'll put our bills together of what it cost, and see which one was more bang for you buck.
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11-12-2012, 03:50 PM
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i bet I can build a solid 302 cheaper than a solid cosworth!
302 is proven, parts are ample, as is knowledge.
hey, school us. show us how to build that motor and costs. I'll give all props on it.
what if we put my 600hp SBC into that opal!
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-12-2012, 03:56 PM
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It would probably tear in half. In fact, it would be looney tune style, where the front half stays still, but the back half would spin like a propeller
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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11-12-2012, 04:01 PM
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LOL
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-12-2012, 04:05 PM
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Back in da day there were lots of V8 powered Opals being put together, mostly as drag cars. I'd like to see one done up with a hi-po 4 cylinder.
Hey, whatever floats your boat. Different is cool. I want a Viper, was ready to look at Chargers, and ended up with a Caliber SRT4, lol.
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THE ONLY THING THAT SUCKS WORSE THEN IMPORTS ARE RICED OUT IMPORTS!!!
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11-12-2012, 06:52 PM
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They have opal's from time to time on pass time and they go fast.
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11-12-2012, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Flathead fords can go fast too but I wouldn't want one of them either.
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Really? I'd love to have one!
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11-12-2012, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unstable bob gable
Back in da day there were lots of V8 powered Opals being put together, mostly as drag cars. I'd like to see one done up with a hi-po 4 cylinder.
Hey, whatever floats your boat. Different is cool. I want a Viper, was ready to look at Chargers, and ended up with a Caliber SRT4, lol.
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They have opal's from time to time on pass time and they go fast.
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http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/20...-drag-car.html
Tubalicious!!!
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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11-12-2012, 11:26 PM
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Really? I'd love to have one!
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It would just sit on your shelf
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-13-2012, 10:56 AM
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It would just sit on your shelf
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Still would be cool!
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11-29-2012, 11:34 PM
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Found another little gem. I'd rebuild this, and stuff a 331cu Hemi with a 4 speed to her, and have a blast at vintage festivals.....oh and make it road legal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-...item2325995a49
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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