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04-26-2005, 10:15 PM
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Resident Camera Guy
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Stock Z06 goes 12.00 @ 123mph!
Most, actually all but this line here, is borrowed from another site. None are my opinions on the subject.
http://www.southfloridaracing.com/fo...ad.php?t=23717
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You read right, BONE STOCK C6 Z06 runs 12.06@123.9 @ Beech Bend.
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With that trap speed low 11's should be easy. High 10's are in sight
Apparently track conditions were subpar also:
Posted on the corvetteforum concerning track conditions:
"123.9 was his best run when we were there. I agree that everyone always wants to pull the "bad conditions" excuse but Sat it was really tough out there. I go to the strip at least a couple of times a year for the last 8 to 10 years and I have never felt a track as slick as this one was. The headwind was very stiff. I have a bone stock 04Z and I could not go full throttle in 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd on most of my runs. I was 2 to 3 MPH down from my normal trap speeds. I ran right behind him on 5 straight passes and my friend who was videoing said that his car seemed twice as loud as mine under WOT. I thought it looked awesome and sounded very good. "
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Here are a few items from Dave Hill's presentation on the C6 Z06 at the C5/6 Registry Birthday Bash in Bowling Green, Ky. Some old stuff, some new stuff....
The top speed will be substantially above 190 MPH.
The fender badge will show 505 HP.
Quarter mile on street tires in mid 11's.
The car has been tested on several race tracks with over 1,750 laps at top speed. Drivers included C6R team, and GM test people.
The car magazines will get a production built car for testing in July.
Next week they will air ship a production built car to Nurburing for testing.
93 octane is the recommended gasoline to use.
The car will have heavier duty half shafts, than the C5 Z06.
The rear axle ratio will be 3.42.
Car will be available with 6-speed manual only.
the aftermarket would be able to do better than this exhaust system.
the Zo6 could take a higher lift camshaft without any problems, saying the pistons have extra valve reliefs built in from the factory to accomodate a new higher duration cam with more lift.
they brought along a dyno sheet that appeared to be an engine dyno, 505hp and 470lb-ft, and 400ft. lbs all the way across the board from 2400 rpms on up.
Xm anttena aids in downforce
The crate motor LS7 would be around $15,000 (can you say c5 + ls7 ?)
The Z06 will use the same 6 spd as the base C6, not the optional Z51 gearing.
Front brake cooling improved over C5 Z06 by a multiple of 5 and rear improved by a multiple of 2.
Front fascia scoop operable and testing shows main benefit is to reduce air temperature entering engine...not so much to increase airflow due to bends in design necessary to eliminate possibility of water ingestion.
Downforce has been optimized and adding a rear wing or full width rear spoiler will negatively affect balance without changing size of front splitter, etc. A general principle but the engineers emphasized this issue when talking about raised height of the C6 Z06 rear CMSL, size of front splitter, etc.
Lowering the new Z06 to improve looks/stance will upset the balance achieved but if you do be very careful not to exceed the "magic number" of 3/4 inches or the performance loss outweighs aesthetic benefit. Also, be aware the C6 sits lower in front versus rear, unlike the C5.
They are working on a new "steel blue" color as shown on slides during presentation. Didn't say what model year it might appear.
Horsepower to weight ratio of the best (6.2lbs to 1hp) the exotic car makers have as only the Enzo and the mega dollar Porsche were superior.
No price release til June or July
There will not be a horse power bump in the 2007 Z06, there will not be a 525hp or 550hp 2007.
He explained the 2nd year Z06 got the bump to 405hp due to a break thru in better catalytic converters (I guess inferring they could meet the same emissions standards with a larger cam?)
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04-26-2005, 10:36 PM
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gmhtp took an 04 z06 to 11.97 bone stock...i'm not impressed
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04-26-2005, 10:39 PM
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wait till gmht's drivers get it.......oh and i gaurantee it will hook better at englishtown when they do
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04-26-2005, 11:32 PM
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thats one expensive-ass 12.0 index car
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04-27-2005, 06:34 AM
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with that trap speed 11.5 or lower is possible, dude can't shift (or chooses not to since it is a tester) and needs stickier tires, he was spinning to the 300 foot mark. When I went 11.7 it was at 116MPH, that thing has got some nuts under the hood, just need to get it to the ground.
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11.05 @ 123
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04-27-2005, 07:46 AM
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Keyboard Tough Guy
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im thinking slicks/skinnies =10's off the showroom floor
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04-27-2005, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Batman
with that trap speed 11.5 or lower is possible, dude can't shift (or chooses not to since it is a tester) and needs stickier tires, he was spinning to the 300 foot mark. When I went 11.7 it was at 116MPH, that thing has got some nuts under the hood, just need to get it to the ground.
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Agreed, that 120+ trap speed is good for low 11's as long as it can hook up. That is ridiculously fast. And, if the LS2 is anything like the LS1, it'll get quicker as they get some miles on them.
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04-27-2005, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TPI Monte SS
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Originally Posted by Batman
with that trap speed 11.5 or lower is possible, dude can't shift (or chooses not to since it is a tester) and needs stickier tires, he was spinning to the 300 foot mark. When I went 11.7 it was at 116MPH, that thing has got some nuts under the hood, just need to get it to the ground.
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Agreed, that 120+ trap speed is good for low 11's as long as it can hook up. That is ridiculously fast. And, if the LS2 is anything like the LS1, it'll get quicker as they get some miles on them.
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"The car has been tested on several race tracks with over 1,750 laps at top speed. Drivers included C6R team, and GM test people. "
sounds like its already got some miles on it
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04-27-2005, 09:09 AM
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Wow! Now it makes you even more pissed of that there is no new F-body to stick that engine into.
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04-27-2005, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TPI Monte SS
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Originally Posted by Batman
with that trap speed 11.5 or lower is possible, dude can't shift (or chooses not to since it is a tester) and needs stickier tires, he was spinning to the 300 foot mark. When I went 11.7 it was at 116MPH, that thing has got some nuts under the hood, just need to get it to the ground.
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Agreed, that 120+ trap speed is good for low 11's as long as it can hook up. That is ridiculously fast. And, if the LS2 is anything like the LS1, it'll get quicker as they get some miles on them.
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LS7, not LS2.....427ci of sbc goodness
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04-27-2005, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
LS7, not LS2.....427ci of sbc goodness Â*
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Doh. I was thinking of it like how the LS1/6 are related, but I forgot the LS7 has the dry-sump oiling and all those other goodies. Wonder if that's all usable on the LS2?
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04-27-2005, 10:42 AM
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Token v6 Guy
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I thought I read somewhere there was a yellw C6 NON Z06 there with Z06 body molding/ hood and was spraying a 150 shot to a 123 mph trap speed. Breathless Perf car
Also, they are discusssing a "test mule" which is BEAT TO HELL and has all the first features. Sometimes a car company will make subtle change to their final production car's
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04-27-2005, 11:00 AM
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I will beat you with a toaster!
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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
Wow! Â*Now it makes you even more pissed of that there is no new F-body to stick that engine into.
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Yeah Im with you on that one. Now if I could only hit the lottery and buy one of those...
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04-27-2005, 11:36 AM
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If there was an Fbody to put this engine in, it would cost a lot more then any of us would pay for, and we would bitch that GM made teh car too expensive, so its a loose loose either way. Take a upgraded Camaro that would likely cost near 30k, tack on another 10k (at least)...
Apparently the track near Bowling Green (I forget the name and didnt see it in the article) has HORRIBLE track prep and the driver featherd the throttle out of the hole so he didnt put the $$$ test car into a wall.
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04-27-2005, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
Wow! Â*Now it makes you even more pissed of that there is no new F-body to stick that engine into.
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mmm but there are older ones
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04-27-2005, 11:47 AM
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The LS7 should bolt where any LS1 once stood. It uses the same block style, even though there are some differences in the block itself (dry sump oil system #1).
If GM can price it under 70k, the car will have it all.
I cant wait to see what it does at the Ring.
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04-27-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
I cant wait to see what it does at the Ring.
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Samara will get it
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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04-27-2005, 12:00 PM
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Not that Ring.
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04-27-2005, 12:13 PM
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Token v6 Guy
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I should put one of those engines in my neon!
 <--- me with 427 ci in a neon!!
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04-27-2005, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 12secondv6
I should put one of those engines in my neon!
 <--- me with 427 ci in a neon!!
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Me ->  <- You if you think putting that engine in a neon would be at all acceptable.
I do hear the head wind and the traction looked really crappy at the line. I'd say they're easily low 11 second cars with some hook and normal conditions. That C5 was crap, pulling mid 13's at 104-105mph, my TBI camaro does that, hahaha, but yeah, conditions blah blah blah. All I hear is excuses.
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04-27-2005, 04:26 PM
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Neons have engines?! I thought they were foot-powered, fintstones-style
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04-27-2005, 10:18 PM
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that yellow C6 got a damn good launch....made the other racer his bitch.
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