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GrandmasterCow · 08-22-2005, 07:46 PM

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GP99GT · 08-22-2005, 08:19 PM

what a cumdumpster. just cause this egomaniacal ********** is having a bad day, he takes it out on others... what a scumbag. you should be able to get that speeding ticket taken away no problem, since he couldnt prove it with radar. i still cant believe he punched your window, isnt that kinda like aggravated assault or something?

enRo · 08-22-2005, 08:38 PM

Isnt that forceful entry without a warrant or some ********? You were not at fault IMHO. Thats really ****ed up. Even if he is having a bad day, he shouldnt be breaking windows. You can definately fight the speeding ticket though. GL

PDubs87Z28 · 08-22-2005, 08:40 PM

yeah when you left you should have been like im ganna have you badge mounted on my wall once you get fired and can't get another job!! State Trooper dicked me over with my ticket and told me he paced me at 80 but clocked me at 70. THEN gave me a ticket for 80 and checks 'Pace' on the bottom. When i go to court im ganna tell the judge im guilty for doing 70 in a 65(because he got that on radar) but not guilty for 80 in a 65 because u can't pace someone when you're PARKED on the side of 78.

foff667 · 08-22-2005, 09:06 PM

good luck hopefully he'll have his day soon

Fasterthanyou · 08-22-2005, 11:08 PM

Maybe I'm the only one but from your description I'd say you got a little bit of what was coming to you.
First off, never, and I do mean NEVER bring you your family's connections. That was just dumb and secondly, if he wants to be the ******* so be it, don't be one back. You probably could have gotten away with a simple loud exhaust ticket if you had kept quiet and just let him have is power trip.
Secondly, why did you disagree with the officer outright? You pretty much belittled him when he was doing his job. Would you like it if somebody came up to you and started mouthing off about how dumb your were? I doubt it. Instead, disagree with him by asking him where you almost hit these kids. Then tell him you didn't see anybody. If he wants to say tuff **** just ask him if he's got a witness because as far as you can tell nobody was hit

. That's how you respectfully disagree without striking a nerve.
But hey, I wasn't there so I won't make any more judgement calls. Obviously what he did was complete BS but you didn't make things any better by bringing up your mother's political ties. Heck, my Mom's been mayor, depute mayor, township committee, AND police commissioner. I've been pulled over COUNTLESS times with harrasement from cops. They eventually radio in my license and registration then get the "word" from the dispatch that the last name is on some kind of list and they come back all apologetic (when pulled over for BS reasons).
My last point and this might really tick you off but he could easily get away with punching out your window. You said the door didn't open, that's probably illegal so he could have said that you wouldn't open the door and the law is on his side. Since he couldn't open the door he had to get to you somehow or another... it's sick and stupid but that's how they can get away with murder. Hence my point of this reply, don't piss off a cop, it'll never turn out good for you.

NJSPEEDER · 08-22-2005, 11:19 PM

actually jon, an officer may never make a forceful action against any person or property without being threatened by it. unless the door jumped at teh officer he had no right to touch it much less hit it.
truth of the matter is that when you get pulled over you have more rights than the cop does. he may have the power to write a bunch of tickets, but you have the power to cost him his job.
one thing you shoudl remeber in teh future though, if you get loud with a cop you are much more likely to have this problem. telling a cop the way things really are in a calm tone of voice will piss them off to some degree, but not nearly as much as running off about who your family is or yelling at them.
my advice would be to get a lawyer when you go to court and make sure those who were with you show up to testify.

later
tim

coldkilla · 08-23-2005, 12:49 AM

yeah i have to agree with you guys. ive gotten out of so many tickets only because i came close to being a cop myself before i left cali and i have a lot of friends that turned out to be cops so i understand what kind of person it takes to be one. most cops are egotistical and like being in charge. you have to recognize this and check your ego because when it comes down to it, their ego will win every time. ive always just been polite, admitted what i was doing, if indeed i did it, and nonchalantly flashed my old marine corps id. never did i take it out of my wallet to let him see it, you cant spout off about connections cuz that definitely pisses them off, nothing worse then them doing there job and someone getting off because of "connections". anyways, the cop always let me go and one time even when i was doing 75 in a 25 (i was tapping my leg and saying that i really had to take a **** and i lived around the corner, i worked). just have a clean record, play dumb so the cop can seem smart by schooling you (oh officer i didnt know my inspection was up i forgot to check my card. "well the sticker on your license plate tells you when it is due" oh really i didnt know thanks. "just be more attentive in the future" yeah this really happened to me!) and be respectful. youll get away with murder every single time.

Tru2Chevy · 08-23-2005, 08:43 AM

That sucks man, but you signed your own death warrent right here:

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Originally Posted by GrandmasterCow

then eventually i tell him is it okay to harass a judges son? ill make sure that my mom hears of this.

- Justin

qwikz28 · 08-24-2005, 12:42 AM

the only thing that sucks is that its a bunch of kids word against the cops'. thats not gonna fly well in court. but when you do go, try to act all proper and stuff so the judge thinks your legit. take pictures of your car and stuff too. i got a lawyer for my reckless driving case and he helped out alot, if you are worried about points and such, i would definately recomend getting a good lawyer. just my 2 cents.

ps- dont sweat it cause not all cops are like that. i got pulled over last night doing double the limit, with no seat belt, blasting the radio, at like 2 am. he let me off with a noisy muffler ticket and said if i threw the stocker back on or took it to court he'd drop it for me, but couldnt let me off with nothing, so he gave me the most insignificant ticket he could find.

... so in conclusion, that cop was a huge testicle

j0n · 08-24-2005, 12:44 AM

[hijack] jacob was it a pway cop? and if it was didja catch the name?

somss02 · 08-24-2005, 02:16 AM

same here

chevyt454 · 08-24-2005, 08:01 AM

That guy is the true meaning of a badge going to someone's head. Punching the window was unprofessional & uncalled for. I bet a call to break up something violent comes in, he'll be nowhere to be found.

qwikz28 · 08-24-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by j0n

[hijack] jacob was it a pway cop? and if it was didja catch the name?

nah in upstate NY. havent gotten pulled over in piscataway yet

jims69camaro · 08-24-2005, 02:00 PM

most of the time it's not what you say, but how you say it... you could've **** all over him without raising your voice or claim he was threatening. worst thing in the world is having someone claim that they can get out of the ticket the cop'll write, before he even gets around to writing.

he might've thought you were acting like a spoiled brat-kid-of-a-judge, or something.

his actions may prove to be reprehensible, but that doesn't excuse your behavior.

BlueFBird · 08-25-2005, 11:28 PM

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

GrandmasterCow · 08-26-2005, 01:44 AM

yeah it was stupid of me to bring up my moms occupation. lol but yeah, i talked to her earlier today and she said she got me outta both tickets but only this time lol. because she knew the officer but he didin't put two and two together because she uses her maiden last name for work, and her rgular last name for other things, so my name and hers that he knew didint match. and the window thing i have taken care of since there wasn't as much damage as i originalyl though since i was worked up and all.

jims69camaro · 08-28-2005, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueFBird

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

i can only feel a certain amount towards this end. it's a chosen profession; no one is born into cop slavery or anything. so while they lay their life on the line everyday (not everyday, but you never know what might happen) they chose to lay their life on the line.

i feel the same way about judges. some lawyers get it into their heads that one day they'll be judges, but not everyone who gets into law thinks that way. you hear about a judge getting death threats and what-not, but no one twisted his arm to accept the appointment.

jimmyboy8301 · 08-28-2005, 06:53 AM

i work as a police dispatcher and am a supervisor and soon hope to be a police officer. 99% of the cops i work with are great guys and some of them i call good friends. Maybe you just happened to stumble across one that was having a bad day. You definately stepped over the line threatening his job and yelling that your mom was a judge. I can tell you for a fact that when i'm at work and someone says "oh yea my dad, brother, uncle, cousin, friend and so on" is a cop i really don't give a ****. Thats great for them but i help everyone equally, no one gets special treatment. And saying you'll have your revenge on him can ONLY get you arrested for disorderly conduct and your mom as she said will only be able to help you so much. You should just keep your mouth shut and appologize and if need be go talk to your mom to see what she can do. Whether you like it or not you are probably now on that guy's and a few others cops **** list. As for taking a officers job the PBA and FOB have much much more power than you can believe and it is EXTREMELY difficult, if not near impossible to have any effect on an officers career unless he did something terrible. I agree that officer did go to far but all you did was escalate the situation.

BlueFBird · 08-29-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueFBird

u guys might get all pissed and whatnot at cops, but trutfully its their job... u really dont understand what the job is exactly about unless u live it or watch a family member put the uniform on an go to work everyday...how would u like it everytime u were headin off to duty havin to kiss ur kids an wife or family everyday not knowin if you are going to be commin home...nething can happen when that uniform goes on nething. Â*what i heard at many interviews applin for jobs at pds, its not jus a paycheck u get u get payed for what u might have to do. Â*so when they go out everyday to work and get **** from the scum of the earth how would u feel? its not like they keep to sit in their comfy chair with their nice desk..they lay their life on the line to protect civilians and keep the community safe......

i can only feel a certain amount towards this end. Â*it's a chosen profession; no one is born into cop slavery or anything. Â*so while they lay their life on the line everyday (not everyday, but you never know what might happen) they chose to lay their life on the line.

i feel the same way about judges. Â*some lawyers get it into their heads that one day they'll be judges, but not everyone who gets into law thinks that way. Â*you hear about a judge getting death threats and what-not, but no one twisted his arm to accept the appointment.

they choose!? im sorry without them u wouldnt be safe...jus like without troops u wouldnt have freedom right now. so unsless u want drugs and guns all over ur town and takin crime off the streets that what they put their life on the line for...thats just ingorant to say somethin stupid like they chose to throw their life in danger. put a uniform on an strap a gun on ur hip and try to do what they do. I dont think u understand the importance an how important officers layin their life on the line and being killied in the line of duty is. so dont insult my job my brothers job or other cops like that. just think... and im not tryin to insult you but that post got to me

jims69camaro · 08-30-2005, 06:19 AM

as usual, you missed the point. i wasn't insulting anyone, i merely stated that these people chose their profession. no one is forcing people to become cops.

Fasterthanyou · 08-30-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

as usual, you missed the point. i wasn't insulting anyone, i merely stated that these people chose their profession. no one is forcing people to become cops.

Exactly how I feel about the military... when it's not a draft. My cousin is in the air force as an electronics war-fare officer on the B-52's (drops the bombs). We never treated him any different but always celebrated his returns. Treating somebody different because of their profession is just dumb and expecting to be treated different is even dumber. It's the same with most handicaps, they don't want to be treated differently (well at least the good ones don't).

I give cops a mutual respect. Every time I get pulled over I have a normal conversation with the officer. They like that. They don't want you kissing ass and they don't want you being a dick so be NORMAL. Being nervous isn't cool either. Just be calm and collected.

BlueFBird · 08-30-2005, 02:46 PM

yes but those people be it they are miltary or law enforcing deserve tremendous respect for the jobs they do...your ritght it is their choice to go into dangerous jobs, their certanily not doin it for themselves, would u put yourself in that job?...so how can u not say thats a honerable respectable position..same thing goes for firefighters...they chose to run into burning buildings to save people lives everyday. you catch my drift here.

jimmyboy8301 · 08-30-2005, 03:03 PM

i think what justin is trying to say is that people in that profession are held at a higher standard. Example if someone that worked at mcdonalds killed someone verses a firefighter, police officer, or serviceman killed someone it would be a much bigger deal if the latter did it. Their job is much tougher in all aspects of life than most jobs, so there is no harm in giving them just a little more respect for the job that they do.

GrandmasterCow · 08-30-2005, 03:30 PM

yup, its okay when cops abuse power, you know. we have no protection against it. if a cop is having a bad day, its okay for him to take it out upon civilians. yes, cops are allowed to break the law (as ive been pulled over for tint by a cop car thats already tinted). there aren't too many honest cops out there anymore, and the ones that are, i thank greatly because they attempt to keep law enforcement's good name. but i find that most cops now-a-days are unjust towards younger populations, even if they don't do anything agaisnt the law, they still get treated as if they're criminals anymore.