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Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:12 PM

so I failed it on 4 counts in Paramus today..

Blinker blinking too fast?? Some of you may have seen it recently... it blinks at a normal speed (the paper says the limit is up to i think 130 times per minute... no way that mine is faster than that). I'll catch a video of it later.

Brakes - "failed automated test." Guy said to me - "you have no back brakes and your front ones are too tight." OK, I can see my back brakes being dead from burnouts and also since it's the same rotors, calipers, and pads that were on the junkyard rear when I got it. Fronts being "too tight", i dunno what theyre talking about there. Does anyone know brakes real well that can help me out?

Horn - "inaudible from 200 ft." Fine, whatever, the horns I bought the high note is dead, sounds like a friggin steamboat... I wouldnt say theyre inaudible from 200 ft but failing, ok.

The last one's the best...

on the paper it reads "RIGHT SIDE - MODIFIED EXHAUST" (yes in caps.) Guy said to me - "your exhaust is modified". WTF?!?!?!? the **** is this ****. They passed my license plate being tied on by a piece of string, my alignment being ****ed more than a crack whore outside a rehab center, and my abs, air bag, and brake (i dunno it just started yesterday, dash e-brake light is on but but i fail on having a modified exhaust?!?! they can even fail you for that?!?!?!?!

And what is also funny is how the paper says that I have 45 days to get re-inspected... but if it's not done by 11/30/05 my registration can be suspended

f'in dmv morons. Well I'm glad I put my cat back on before I went... theyve got a nice mirror they go around the car with.

I'm probably gonna shell out the cash now to get new rear pads and rotors, and have a garage I know redo the inspection, cuz im not taking my damn catback off for this state place. I'd appreciate some help on the brakes issue though, if anyone's got any idea.

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:12 PM

so I failed it on 4 counts in Paramus today..

Blinker blinking too fast?? Some of you may have seen it recently... it blinks at a normal speed (the paper says the limit is up to i think 130 times per minute... no way that mine is faster than that). I'll catch a video of it later.

Brakes - "failed automated test." Guy said to me - "you have no back brakes and your front ones are too tight." OK, I can see my back brakes being dead from burnouts and also since it's the same rotors, calipers, and pads that were on the junkyard rear when I got it. Fronts being "too tight", i dunno what theyre talking about there. Does anyone know brakes real well that can help me out?

Horn - "inaudible from 200 ft." Fine, whatever, the horns I bought the high note is dead, sounds like a friggin steamboat... I wouldnt say theyre inaudible from 200 ft but failing, ok.

The last one's the best...

on the paper it reads "RIGHT SIDE - MODIFIED EXHAUST" (yes in caps.) Guy said to me - "your exhaust is modified". WTF?!?!?!? the **** is this ****. They passed my license plate being tied on by a piece of string, my alignment being ****ed more than a crack whore outside a rehab center, and my abs, air bag, and brake (i dunno it just started yesterday, dash e-brake light is on but but i fail on having a modified exhaust?!?! they can even fail you for that?!?!?!?!

And what is also funny is how the paper says that I have 45 days to get re-inspected... but if it's not done by 11/30/05 my registration can be suspended

f'in dmv morons. Well I'm glad I put my cat back on before I went... theyve got a nice mirror they go around the car with.

I'm probably gonna shell out the cash now to get new rear pads and rotors, and have a garage I know redo the inspection, cuz im not taking my damn catback off for this state place. I'd appreciate some help on the brakes issue though, if anyone's got any idea.

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:19 PM

Dude, just get different tips. I can stick my left leg in one of them if I wanted to. If they see different "stock-looking" tips, just tell them "The exhaust is so shiny because I had it replaced like you told me to".

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:19 PM

Dude, just get different tips. I can stick my left leg in one of them if I wanted to. If they see different "stock-looking" tips, just tell them "The exhaust is so shiny because I had it replaced like you told me to".

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:24 PM

well they go around the whole car with a mirror

and a magnaflow catback is illegal?! with a magnaflow high flow cat and stock manifolds and y?

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:24 PM

well they go around the whole car with a mirror

and a magnaflow catback is illegal?! with a magnaflow high flow cat and stock manifolds and y?

NJSPEEDER · 10-31-2005, 07:29 PM

magnaflow cat backs are 50state emissions legal. you can walk into DMV with the fed/carb information and they will hav eto drop that point of the failure.
your horn not being loud enough, you mentioned that when you were here as well.
rebleed your brakes and try again, maybe throw on some new pads as an added safety measure.
the blinker thing i have never heard before. ask them if they got fresh crack this mornign or some day old **** that had goen bad.

later
tim

NJSPEEDER · 10-31-2005, 07:29 PM

magnaflow cat backs are 50state emissions legal. you can walk into DMV with the fed/carb information and they will hav eto drop that point of the failure.
your horn not being loud enough, you mentioned that when you were here as well.
rebleed your brakes and try again, maybe throw on some new pads as an added safety measure.
the blinker thing i have never heard before. ask them if they got fresh crack this mornign or some day old **** that had goen bad.

later
tim

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:30 PM

Then confront them with papers and say you demand a Decibal test. They really SHOULDNT fail you for modifying your exhaust, unless they've gotten real nazi about it

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:30 PM

Then confront them with papers and say you demand a Decibal test. They really SHOULDNT fail you for modifying your exhaust, unless they've gotten real nazi about it

NJSPEEDER · 10-31-2005, 07:39 PM

don't ask for a DB test, jsut show them the federal paperwork that comes with teh system. they can't argue with the federal government.

later
tim

NJSPEEDER · 10-31-2005, 07:39 PM

don't ask for a DB test, jsut show them the federal paperwork that comes with teh system. they can't argue with the federal government.

later
tim

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:39 PM

I think they did decibal test me, either that or the guy liked how it sounded and wanted to hold at it a certain rpm (sounded like 2500-3000 to me) for like 2-3 seconds. They didn't say it was too loud just that it was modified, I think they woulda told me if it was a volume issue. Plus i'm pretty sure that it's within the legal limit.

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:39 PM

I think they did decibal test me, either that or the guy liked how it sounded and wanted to hold at it a certain rpm (sounded like 2500-3000 to me) for like 2-3 seconds. They didn't say it was too loud just that it was modified, I think they woulda told me if it was a volume issue. Plus i'm pretty sure that it's within the legal limit.

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:42 PM

yea now I just have to find the paperwork or if someone else has it (alex? ted? john? anyone else with magnaflow?) then borrow that... or get new paperwork from magnaflow

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 07:42 PM

yea now I just have to find the paperwork or if someone else has it (alex? ted? john? anyone else with magnaflow?) then borrow that... or get new paperwork from magnaflow

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:43 PM

Then Ill tell you in exact words what my exhaust mechanic told me when my 86 TA failed for noise pollution: "You caught a mad DMV worker on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day"

enRo · 10-31-2005, 07:43 PM

Then Ill tell you in exact words what my exhaust mechanic told me when my 86 TA failed for noise pollution: "You caught a mad DMV worker on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day"

deadtrend1 · 10-31-2005, 07:54 PM

My truck has a magnaflow on it, and it went through the inspection easily. Actually, I think guy was reving it a little at the end just before he got out to put the pass sticker on it.

Actually the best (meaning worst with stupid ********) inspection was with my old red LO3 Bird. Tim remembers the car. I failed for my
1) third brake light being out went into the back seat, tapped it and it worked.
2) Insurance card laminated Since theres no glove box, and everything i own that was in the car was shoved in the center console, the insurance card got crushed all the time. So i was working at office max at the time and i was bored at work so I laminated it. Oh well, no bigge, i got a new one from Allstate like the next day.

This last one is what put me over the edge.
3) Gas Cap
Ok, i went home and grabbed the BRAND NEW gas cap i had on my dead Camaro and went back.
DMV Immagrant "Where is the receipt for the gas cap?"
me "I didn't buy it, I took it off the car that doesn't run"
DMV "state requires you to have a receipt"
me "Why should I buy one when I have a new one that you didn't check yet"
DMV "state requires a receipt"
Me "I DON'T CARE, YOU DIDN'T CHECK THIS ONE YET. IF IT DOESN'T LEAK THEN WHY SHOULD I GO BUY A NEW ONE WHEN THERES ONE SCREWED ONTO THE CAR ALREADY"

this went on for a little bit longer.

then I failed on my current Trans Am for something with my rear left shock being to bouncy or something. I just paid someone 40 bucks to pass it, figured it would be cheaper then new shocks.

deadtrend1 · 10-31-2005, 07:54 PM

My truck has a magnaflow on it, and it went through the inspection easily. Actually, I think guy was reving it a little at the end just before he got out to put the pass sticker on it.

Actually the best (meaning worst with stupid ********) inspection was with my old red LO3 Bird. Tim remembers the car. I failed for my
1) third brake light being out went into the back seat, tapped it and it worked.
2) Insurance card laminated Since theres no glove box, and everything i own that was in the car was shoved in the center console, the insurance card got crushed all the time. So i was working at office max at the time and i was bored at work so I laminated it. Oh well, no bigge, i got a new one from Allstate like the next day.

This last one is what put me over the edge.
3) Gas Cap
Ok, i went home and grabbed the BRAND NEW gas cap i had on my dead Camaro and went back.
DMV Immagrant "Where is the receipt for the gas cap?"
me "I didn't buy it, I took it off the car that doesn't run"
DMV "state requires you to have a receipt"
me "Why should I buy one when I have a new one that you didn't check yet"
DMV "state requires a receipt"
Me "I DON'T CARE, YOU DIDN'T CHECK THIS ONE YET. IF IT DOESN'T LEAK THEN WHY SHOULD I GO BUY A NEW ONE WHEN THERES ONE SCREWED ONTO THE CAR ALREADY"

this went on for a little bit longer.

then I failed on my current Trans Am for something with my rear left shock being to bouncy or something. I just paid someone 40 bucks to pass it, figured it would be cheaper then new shocks.

Teds89IROC · 10-31-2005, 08:34 PM

I don't have the paperwork from mine, the shop that installed it and fabbed up my Y-pipe musta scrapped it. Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) I'm sure they can help you out...maybe give you a number to call or something. As for your rear brakes, I'd just replace the pads..depending on how bad the rotors are. When I first had the IROC inspected their skidpad showed I had like no rear brakes..I slapped on new pads and was fine. As for the fronts, I wouldn't worry, just bleed all of them like Tim said. I don't understand how they can be "too tight" their meter is a skid pad which shows when the brakes start to grab. They're a bunch of morons, first time I had the RS inspected the retard set it up on the emissions dyno with the front wheels on the rollers and started to chock the rear wheels

I've heard once you fail you'll have a hard time getting it to pass, unless it is truely legit and you replaced everything. The IROC's inspection is due november and there is no way I'm passing lol I have to call my friends mom at DMV and try to switch registration to collectors. Only thing I'm worried about is on their site it says you can only swap it over when the registration is up..mines up in April, So for probably this month and March I'll have to watch out......perhaps lol

~Ted

Teds89IROC · 10-31-2005, 08:34 PM

I don't have the paperwork from mine, the shop that installed it and fabbed up my Y-pipe musta scrapped it. Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) I'm sure they can help you out...maybe give you a number to call or something. As for your rear brakes, I'd just replace the pads..depending on how bad the rotors are. When I first had the IROC inspected their skidpad showed I had like no rear brakes..I slapped on new pads and was fine. As for the fronts, I wouldn't worry, just bleed all of them like Tim said. I don't understand how they can be "too tight" their meter is a skid pad which shows when the brakes start to grab. They're a bunch of morons, first time I had the RS inspected the retard set it up on the emissions dyno with the front wheels on the rollers and started to chock the rear wheels

I've heard once you fail you'll have a hard time getting it to pass, unless it is truely legit and you replaced everything. The IROC's inspection is due november and there is no way I'm passing lol I have to call my friends mom at DMV and try to switch registration to collectors. Only thing I'm worried about is on their site it says you can only swap it over when the registration is up..mines up in April, So for probably this month and March I'll have to watch out......perhaps lol

~Ted

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teds89IROC

Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??

Savage_Messiah · 10-31-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teds89IROC

Try contacting Jim from exhaustguys (or whatever their name is on ther boards, I forget) Â*~Ted

good call

and it's newbie question time, can anyone give me a step-by-step for brake bleeding??

Teds89IROC · 10-31-2005, 08:47 PM

the best is to get 2 people. Have your wheel off with newspaper all around and make sure you get the proper size wrench and are turning in the correct direction..don't strip them..don't ask me why I included that

have someone inside the car pump the brakes up till they are hard and have them keep the pressure on. loosen the valve and air (if there is any) will shoot out and then fluid will shoot out. You repeat this till the only thing that comes out is a stream of fluid, no bubbles or anything. They sell self bleeder valves, but personally I wouldn't trust them. You could also buy a plastic hose that will fit over the valve..loosen the valve first, slap the hose on and have the other end in a constainer of brake fluid..then pump the pedal yourself and the air will be pushed out and the only thing that can get sucked back in is brake fluid. I think getting another person is easier.

~Ted