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			Car And Driver tested tires in  WET and  DRY conditions, last time they did this was 20 years ago! Here are the TOP 10:
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BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
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Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
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Toyo Proxes T1R
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Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico
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Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
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Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212
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Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
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Yokohama Advan Neova AD07
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Continental ContiSportContact 2
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Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
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			wow Im gonna go get some hankooks $99 a tire 6th place.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				wow Im gonna go get some hankooks $99 a tire 6th place. 
			
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BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD 
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Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 
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			I have to say, I have the Continental ExtremeContacts and they are great in the rain and handle very very well on dry pavement.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i drove the eagle f1s before and they are spectacular. expensive though so i'm going for the kdw2s next. 
 
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			The article (I can't find the issue now) said the numbers were on the website so you could make your own determination, but I can't find them.  I wanted to look at the scores w/o the treadwear (which is a useless number), and without price.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I have NO idea why the KD was used.  The D clearly stansd for Dry weather, and Dry weather only.  When they put it in rain, it supun out...NO ****!?!?!?!   
Try on the KDW and you might have gotten different results.   
F!'s are much expensive, but one of Goodyears better tires.   
Mich PS2's are another "dry" weather tire.  if they wanted an all season performance tire, they should have put in the Pilot Sport A/S.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i have bfg gforce. They are great tires
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			my tires arent even on that list wooohoooo for firestone firehawks
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Hmmm, I'll have to check out some of those tires. 
 
When I got my new rims I snagged a set of OEM Goodyear GS's...now I see why people ditched them back in 98-99 or whenever they were came on our cars. 
 
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			IDK i got those goodyear tires on the back of the T/A now n i think they suck. Burnouts in em suck they dont leave any type of marks n idk they make the car just feel lik itrs floating on they highway.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				IDK i got those goodyear tires on the back of the T/A now n i think they suck. Burnouts in em suck they dont leave any type of marks n idk they make the car just feel lik itrs floating on they highway. 
			
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			i really think the Contis are a bit over-rated. i'm not saying they are bad, but on some applications they feel somewhat soft.  
 
Hankooks are a good tire at they're price point. 
 
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I had them on the stock rims on the Z  245/50/16
 
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			RSA= JUNK!!  While a great design...10 years ago...they are a waste.  There are plenty of tires out there that can do the job better then the RSA.  Kumo ASX or a BFG Gforce KDWS are better non-semetrical tires.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				RSA= JUNK!!  While a great design...10 years ago...they are a waste.  There are plenty of tires out there that can do the job better then the RSA.  Kumo ASX or a BFG Gforce KDWS are better non-semetrical tires. 
			
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			Im talking about the handling and driving of the tires. I have had several customers hate the tire, on top of a lot of premature wear. My boss had them on his GTP, and he couldnt stand it. 
  
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				Im talking about the handling and driving of the tires. I have had several customers hate the tire, on top of a lot of premature wear. My boss had them on his GTP, and he couldnt stand it. 
  
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				RSA= JUNK!!  While a great design...10 years ago...they are a waste.  There are plenty of tires out there that can do the job better then the RSA.  Kumo ASX or a BFG Gforce KDWS are better non-semetrical tires. 
			
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			01-03-2006, 09:55 PM
			
			
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			I have KDWS 17's on mine, and they're great....much better than the GS-C's that were on there. They're great in the rain, and last winter I actually had to back 1/2 way up an entrance ramp to Rt 18 on an inch of solid ice because of a 15 car pile-up at the bottom....I had my doubts at first, but it went pretty easily which was impressive.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			01-03-2006, 10:11 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by slugger27nj
					
				 
				last winter I actually had to back 1/2 way up an entrance ramp to Rt 18 on an inch of solid ice because of a 15 car pile-up at the bottom....I had my doubts at first, but it went pretty easily which was impressive. 
			
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				and 1 more smart ass answer by you and i'm going to reach into this monitor and grab you by the throat 
			
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