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08-20-2006, 08:24 PM
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Killed the motor on the way home
despite having some major ignition and fueling issues today i ran the car anyways.not to well at that.after the first 3 passes with almost no boost due to a bad boost controler i decide to unhook the wastegate for one final pass.this time i get 18psi about 200' out but all the sudden the car starts to buck and i hear a bang around the 330' mark and the car shuts right off.ok so after coasting most of the way down the track i get it restarted,no noise or smoke everything seems fine.Well about halfway home the car starts smoking out the ex system.so i take it over to the shop and do a leakdown test cyls 1 threw 4 avg about 21% well i get to cyls 5&6 #5 had 43% and cyl #6 had 57%  .im quessing the thing detonated so hard on that last pass that i broke the ringlands,or the rings  lol last time i try to run that much boost on a stock cast pistion
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
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08-20-2006, 08:27 PM
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Well, I think I can safely say... I think you blew the motor when u had thoughts of turboing  Good luck with it.
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08-20-2006, 08:33 PM
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lol no i blew it when i droped that bone stock motor in the car when i purposly blew up my good motor that had the forged pistion in it.thing that gets me is on the 2 passes i actually made it to the 1/8th mile mark i actually ran decent times
both in the 7.2-7.6 range.just couldnt keep the car under power the rest of the way down to track due to detonation and backfiring
edit make that 7.4-7.7
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
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08-20-2006, 08:34 PM
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Thanks for selling us your excuses. My stock 2.8 runs faster than your turbo. Taking the wastegate off, not smart. To be honest, we all expected it to blow up.
But for now, I guess I'll go back to scratching my head about why the speakers in the headrests of the 85 GT haven't caused that car to burn to the ground. I wonder...
All in good fun.
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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT- Stock 2.8 aluminum "boat anchor" Runs like a champ. Needs a chip now!
Also: 1974 Honda CB550/four. Ah, the OPEN-open road.
99 Saturn SW1. Flaunting a fender "blemish" (large gaping hole) thanks to a hit a run. Never caught the guy. Permanent Driveway Status at Justin's.
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08-20-2006, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
Thanks for selling us your excuses. My stock 2.8 runs faster than your turbo. Taking the wastegate off, not smart. To be honest, we all expected it to blow up.
But for now, I guess I'll go back to scratching my head about why the speakers in the headrests of the 85 GT haven't caused that car to burn to the ground. I wonder...
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exactly my na 2.8 was faster then the turbo 3.1 that is in the car now.that thing would pull consitant low 15.s.the first pass should have been my last but i was so pissed.i just wanted to get the thing down the track
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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08-20-2006, 08:38 PM
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Forged bottom end + boost =boom
Weaksauce bottom end + boost = BOOOOOOOOM!
It was a matter of time. Taking the wastegate off...kiss of death.
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08-20-2006, 08:40 PM
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Hey Al, what do you like on your track burgers?
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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT- Stock 2.8 aluminum "boat anchor" Runs like a champ. Needs a chip now!
Also: 1974 Honda CB550/four. Ah, the OPEN-open road.
99 Saturn SW1. Flaunting a fender "blemish" (large gaping hole) thanks to a hit a run. Never caught the guy. Permanent Driveway Status at Justin's.
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08-20-2006, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
Thanks for selling us your excuses. My stock 2.8 runs faster than your turbo. Taking the wastegate off, not smart. To be honest, we all expected it to blow up.
But for now, I guess I'll go back to scratching my head about why the speakers in the headrests of the 85 GT haven't caused that car to burn to the ground. I wonder...
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like i said at the nats, ill put 50 bucks on Liz if you run your V6-T against her Fiero
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08-20-2006, 08:41 PM
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driving a turbo car with known PCM problems = extra boom.
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08-20-2006, 08:41 PM
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weaksauce
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08-20-2006, 08:42 PM
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Hot Liz, Cold Beer
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Originally Posted by Tsar
like i said at the nats, ill put 50 bucks on Liz if you run your V6-T against her Fiero
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Oh yeah?
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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT- Stock 2.8 aluminum "boat anchor" Runs like a champ. Needs a chip now!
Also: 1974 Honda CB550/four. Ah, the OPEN-open road.
99 Saturn SW1. Flaunting a fender "blemish" (large gaping hole) thanks to a hit a run. Never caught the guy. Permanent Driveway Status at Justin's.
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08-20-2006, 08:44 PM
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Oh yeah?
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um..yea, i said it right in front of you. way to pay attention liz
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08-20-2006, 08:48 PM
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its quite alright atleast i got one decent 1/8 out of it 7.6@86, wish i could have made it full track on that pass should have been a nice mid to high 12 sec pass
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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08-20-2006, 08:49 PM
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haha, tsar thinks people pay attention to him.
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08-20-2006, 08:50 PM
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haha, tsar thinks people pay attention to him.
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haha old man thinks he made a funny!
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08-20-2006, 08:51 PM
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haha old man thinks he made a funny!
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i listen to you space station 
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Except Jersey mike, great kid, but the way he looks at me makes me feel like im in danger
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08-20-2006, 08:52 PM
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Do you have the book "how to turbo charge damn near anything"??
If so, I think you saved me 20 bucks jk
But damn man, It sucks I wish You could a pulled a low 12 pass.
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08-20-2006, 08:54 PM
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i listen to you space station |
stop flirting with the communist
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08-20-2006, 08:54 PM
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lol so do i,but i should have known better to try to run the car with the problems i was having.theres always next time,ive got a fresh motor on the engine stand at work,just waiting on my aftermarket crank so i can assemble it
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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08-20-2006, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WayFast84
But damn man, It sucks I wish You could a pulled a low 12 pass.
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First one must get out from 17's - i gotta say he talked alot of crap for someone who ran slower times then most stock cars run...
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08-20-2006, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
stop flirting with the communist
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dont be jealous timmay!
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08-20-2006, 08:59 PM
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lol well had it been an 1/8 mile track i woulda been fine on the one run,but ehh it wasnt,no big deal next time out i just gota make sure the car is running right.
ecm/ign,fueling problems ftl.dont forget i never made anything further then an 1/8th mile pass
had i been able to make full passes i would have been fine right down in the 12's/13's were i shoudl have been
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
Last edited by project89; 08-20-2006 at 09:01 PM.
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08-20-2006, 09:05 PM
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Hot Liz, Cold Beer
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that kit needs to be rebuilt all together, with time and patience.
I'm such a woman.
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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT- Stock 2.8 aluminum "boat anchor" Runs like a champ. Needs a chip now!
Also: 1974 Honda CB550/four. Ah, the OPEN-open road.
99 Saturn SW1. Flaunting a fender "blemish" (large gaping hole) thanks to a hit a run. Never caught the guy. Permanent Driveway Status at Justin's.
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08-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
that kit needs to be rebuilt all together, with time and patience.
I'm such a woman.
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 on the rebuild part, not the woman part
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Except Jersey mike, great kid, but the way he looks at me makes me feel like im in danger
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08-20-2006, 09:10 PM
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on the rebuild part, not the woman part |
are you sure about the woman part?
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