So this could be our savior to save us from George Bush?

[Frosty]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_B0uHybfmmY

Holy Christ

She f'in BOMBED that debate hardcore.

EVERY single topic was an attack on Bush. Great you twit, we all know W is a dingbat, move on. Hating Bush, being rich, being famous and have the husband she has shouldn't get her a single vote. Unfortunately those things will. Her platform so far has been off the wall promises and an attack on W. Way to go, keep whining about how bad this Administration is yet you offer no ******* plans on how to make things better.

I love how she was asked about the documents between her and Billy Boy(again from last night's debate). I've never seen someone skate around a question so well, kudos to her.

[Teds89IROC]

I didn't watch the debate but I heard a few of her points

[johnjzjz]

we all know how rudy took control of 911 --he is left of center and right on the other stuff -- truth be told he is the only one running who took a job ( ruining NYC after the likes of Koch, and beam got through putting it in the dumper and every city worker was going on strike ( do you remember ) i do i grew up in Manhattan - not a job for the weak hearted -- he can do the job but people forget too easy what happened when they dont live in the NYC metro area -- my take for what its worth -- jz

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

She is so wishy washy and fake. She's on the fence about everything..and many feel the same way...

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz

She is so wishy washy and fake. She's on the fence about everything..and many feel the same way...

isn't that all politics

[firehawk1120]

she will destroy this country one state at a time starting with NY. Those stupid bastirds voted her in and now they are stuck with her. I hope to god ANYONE wins but her.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I hope to god she doesn't win, or Obama. Even the other Dems don't seem as crazy as those two.

[JL8Jeff]

Seems to be a really poor selection of candidates from both sides once again. This country is in big trouble and there doesn't seem to be any natural born leaders anymore. Rudy might be the best hope but being mayor of NY probably has him with some enemies that won't emerge until the final election. Hilary and Obama are so weak and like to blame everyone for everything else. Politics is not about blaming someone else, it's about what you're going to do and prove you have the background to do it. But overall, this year's election ads seem to be a lot more low key and less negative than the last few years and that's a good start.

[BonzoHansen]

There is only 1 man for the job.....

[Frosty]

Rudy has my vote if he gets the nod from the GOP

[maroman88]

meee tooooo

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

There is only 1 man for the job.....

Yes please, even as comedians, they are better at news then CNN. I hate this wishy washy ********, its really pissing me off. Hilary is clearly fake and a liar, and trying to win everyone over, but like they always say, you cant please everyone. but shes like pinochio, when she lies ,her *** gets bigger. she really need to wake up and realize what the hell shes saying, but voting anymore is nto voting for your next president that actually did some of the stuff he said he was gonna do, like JFK or Ike, now we vote for the best liar that fools the stupid people. I vote, but man this kind of **** makes me realize why alot of peopel who arent lazy dont, cause nobodies worthy of being voted for.

And as for Rudy, sorry, he needs to get his *** and all other republicans, out of this bible ******** if god didnt want it it shall nto be done, like gay marriage or stem cell research, its the 21st century, and they're about 20 of them behind, grow up and face technology and the way of life has progressed.

[Batman]

Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz

She is so wishy washy and fake. She's on the fence about everything..and many feel the same way...

HELLO... she is a Democrat! That is what they do.

Hillary = the death of America

[mtnhopper1]

I'd like all the Rudy supporters to make a list of things he did for NY.

As far as I can see, he (like some other pols we love to hate), made his name by taking credit for things he didn't do.

-Rudy didn't "save" NY after 9-11, he let his clusterf--k administration send every dope with a shovel into a toxic waste site.

-Rudy didn't "clean up the streets" in NY by getting rid of crime. The crime in NY dropped proportionately with big cities in the rest of the country through the late 90s. He did get rid of the window washers and hookers by the tunnel, but as NJ residents, that shouldn't make you happy becasue most of them went to JC, Newark, and Trenton. He didn't give them jobs or improve their condition, he just moved them somewhere else. He DID put more cops on the street... by cutting benefits to the ones that are out there. Nice. Good job.

So, make me a list. I'm open-minded, but I just don't see it. He seems like another narrow-minded, right-wing, talking head who will say whatever the loudest special interest wants him to say.

I mean, he backed the Red Sox just because he was in Boston! Trivial, I admit, but it kinda gives you a glimpse into his character.

[WildBillyT]

It's a circus. Nobody on the list stands out to me as somebody who can lead us out of the slump we are in. I'm betting that somewhere there are people who can but they aren't running since they don't have the money or popularity or want to deal with all of the BS surrounding the election.

[shane27]

Originally Posted by Batman

HELLO... she is a Democrat! That is what they do.

Hillary = the death of America

and the death of healthcare as we know it

btw i think its comical people think we need to be "saved" from Bush. I thought more people were pro-national security...guess not.

[mtnhopper1]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

It's a circus. Nobody on the list stands out to me as somebody who can lead us out of the slump we are in. I'm betting that somewhere there are people who can but they aren't running since they don't have the money or popularity or want to deal with all of the BS surrounding the election.

Agreed. It's the whole "silent majority" phenom. The only people with a voice are the people who are so crazy extreme that they will throw themselves to the wolves for their cause, or those who are too thick-skulled to see merit in the opinions of others. The president has an obligation to represent ALL Americans, not just those who voted for him. This country was founded on equal representation for all. The way that pols pander to special interest groups is disgraceful and embarassing.

I want someone who is willing to listen to opinions they don't necessarily agree with, and who will take those opinions into consideration when making a decision. Most of us are reasonable, thinking people, even if we disagree. There are reasons we each hold our opinions. I want teh person who will consider all of those reasons and come up with the BEST decision for the country, even if it isn't the one I wanted. However, I want them to be thoughtful and intelligent enough to be able to give me a reason why the decision they chose was the best.

It drives me crazy when people accuse pols of being "flip-floppers," or "wishy-washy." Pols are there for us. Ideally, they do what we tell them to do. If public opinion changes or is indecisive, they should change, or forgo a decision until the right answer is clear. I HATE pols who open their mouths and spew extremist, stump-speech garbage that sounds like a NRA or Greepeace (just to be fair) flier, then stubbornly stand by their garbage even when the entire world disagrees, simply to save face. Lobbyists should be stubborn in their opinions against all rational opposition, the president of a country should not.

[mtnhopper1]

Originally Posted by shane27

and the death of healthcare as we know it

Would that be such a bad thing? The best plan would be to revamp the entire insurance industry.

[1_Hot_SOM_WS6]

I like how she says that giving ILLEGAL immigrants a D/L isn't such a bad idea....IS SHE F'En CRAZY!!!! They are in this country ILLEGALLY but we are going to say....ok great now that you are here lets get you a D/L!!! Get their @$sess out of the country!!! Then she trys to argue that she didnt just say that it was ok for them to have D/Ls. Ugh.....what a mess....even at the closing she cant give a straight answer....I know its politics... If she gets in office...we are doomed!!

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by mtnhopper1

I'd like all the Rudy supporters to make a list of things he did for NY.

As far as I can see, he (like some other pols we love to hate), made his name by taking credit for things he didn't do.

-Rudy didn't "save" NY after 9-11, he let his clusterf--k administration send every dope with a shovel into a toxic waste site.

-Rudy didn't "clean up the streets" in NY by getting rid of crime. The crime in NY dropped proportionately with big cities in the rest of the country through the late 90s. He did get rid of the window washers and hookers by the tunnel, but as NJ residents, that shouldn't make you happy becasue most of them went to JC, Newark, and Trenton. He didn't give them jobs or improve their condition, he just moved them somewhere else. He DID put more cops on the street... by cutting benefits to the ones that are out there. Nice. Good job.

So, make me a list. I'm open-minded, but I just don't see it. He seems like another narrow-minded, right-wing, talking head who will say whatever the loudest special interest wants him to say.

I mean, he backed the Red Sox just because he was in Boston! Trivial, I admit, but it kinda gives you a glimpse into his character.

I grew up in NY when that scum bag was mayor. Do you want to know how he "cleaned up the streets"? Simple, HE MURDERED THE HOMELESS! It's true. The cops would go around to all of the abandoned houses and buildings in the city in the middle of the night and knock the buildings down with all of the innocent people in it. And to make sure noone got out alive, they'd place one of the giant steel plates that they put down on the road to cover construction holes over the doors on the first floor with cranes. Saw it myself. If that murderous piece of crap gets elected, Im moving the hell away from north america.

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by SteveR

I grew up in NY when that scum bag was mayor. Do you want to know how he "cleaned up the streets"? Simple, HE MURDERED THE HOMELESS! It's true. The cops would go around to all of the abandoned houses and buildings in the city in the middle of the night and knock the buildings down with all of the innocent people in it. And to make sure noone got out alive, they'd place one of the giant steel plates that they put down on the road to cover construction holes over the doors on the first floor with cranes. Saw it myself. If that murderous piece of crap gets elected, Im moving the hell away from north america.

i'm not saying you're wrong but
1. cops don't knock down houses
2. wouldn't that be kind of noisy?

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Knipps

i'm not saying you're wrong but
1. cops don't knock down houses
2. wouldn't that be kind of noisy?

Sure did. Usually happened around 3-4am. I lost a few friends to Guliani's 'clean streets program'. A lot of it took place in the lower east side. The place I knew pretty well was C-Squat on Avenue A. It was occupied mainly by runaways and kids. If you watch the movie "The Saint of Fort Washington", they talk about the mass grave that all of the homeless are taken to and dumped there like Nazi's used to have mass graves. It's sickening.

[Predator86]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

There is only 1 man for the job.....

All joking aside i agree

[SteveR]

Oh, and they used to hand out chemicals, such as Lindane, that is supposed to be a lice repellent, to the homeless, except they'd hand out the agricultural version, and in amounts that were 10x the recommended amount for the FDA medically approved version. It is a health risk to be exposed to large amounts of the agricultural version and can cause seizures, cancer, and death. Knowing that it causes cancer and is toxic, they'd hand out mass quantities to the homeless promising that it would rid them of lice. It did, and killed many in the process, much like how the settlers would hand out blankets to the Native Americans that were laced with small pox.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Wow. I've never heard any of that stuff you're saying Steve. I knew about how he went from the biggest Yankee fan ever to the Red Sox, but this is a tad more important.