Obama vs. Clinton

[alamantia]

Why does the media make such a big deal of Obama vs. Clinton when in teh end McCain is the next president anyway, seems like a waist of time to me.

[bubba428]

cause theres nothing else to use to pit us against each other...but I'm voting for McCain and think both Hillary and Obama can burn in hell. if hillary is elected that commie whore with destroy or economy(think bush was bad, that was nothing) and obama, well he'd turn America into an Obama-nation

[WildBillyT]

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[alamantia]

Okaaay, maybe not exactly the most intelligent thing I have read today but I would have to agree with Bubba 100%

[firehawk1120]

the media has to give the democrats some hope of winning. Look at your party!!! On one hand you have the 1st Female Presidential candidate and on the other hand you have the 1st Black Presidential candidate you are the party of change. GO YOU!!!!

Too bad the female is a classless, no backbone, psychotic, dyke.

and the black guy is more white then black with no real plan just likes saying the word CHANGE alot.

[BigAls87Z28]

Someone produce evidence that she will destroy an economy that has been destroyed, is a psycho, a dyke or anything else said?

[bubba428]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Someone produce evidence that she will destroy an economy that has been destroyed, is a psycho, a dyke or anything else said?

whoah there big guy, nobody said shes a dyke. but she is a psychotic power whore bent on destroying the USA

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by firehawk1120

the media has to give the democrats some hope of winning. Look at your party!!! On one hand you have the 1st Female Presidential candidate and on the other hand you have the 1st Black Presidential candidate you are the party of change. GO YOU!!!!

Too bad the female is a classless, no backbone, psychotic, dyke.

and the black guy is more white then black with no real plan just likes saying the word CHANGE alot.

Originally Posted by bubba428

whoah there big guy, nobody said shes a dyke.

Uh...yes someone did

but she is a psychotic power whore bent on destroying the USA

Again...show this?

[bubba428]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Uh...yes someone did



Again...show this?

why bother...your hell bent on defending her and no mater what anybody says your going to keep saying the same thing over and over. just like the rest of the democrats, if you talk really loud and keep saying the same thing, people might start to believe it.

[BigAls87Z28]

Ok, so you cannot produce any reason or anything that Clinton will do a poor job?
You just wana watch Fox News and just repeat what they say?

I dont want this to get into a political rant, but no one can show me where Clinton will do a poor job?
Same people who voted Bush in TWICE are the same people that tell me that Clinton sucks.
As for the answer...its because Obama and Clinton are in a tight race for the Dem nomination, and since everyone is sick and tired of the death toll in Iraq and our failure in Afganastan, and Britney Spear's updates, the failing economy, the destruction of the housing market, the skyrocketing oil prices based on speculation, and all the other great stuff, this is the most relevent topic that people wana talk about.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by alamantia

Why does the media make such a big deal of Obama vs. Clinton when in teh end McCain is the next president anyway, seems like a waist of time to me.

Assumptions are like......

[bubba428]

I part of the debate, got pissed off from there half baked schemes to just make it all better. besides your forgetting one KEY aspect. Once elected will any of that happen. Do you think Hillary will keep her word, do you think Obama would keep his word. I'd trust McCain to do what he says he will, far before I'd trust either of them. What does Hillary know about war, NOTHING, her husband didn't do anything about anything. He singed bills into act that did not become effective till well after Bush was in office. What to say she won't do the same. It worked for bill because Osama didn't attack twice, well now were at war with his followers and remember a vote for hill is a vote for bill. whats going to happen is she'll pull a large number of soldiers out, the Al queda thats still there will start attacking in VERY large numbers and our remaining troops will be slaughtered along with our allies and any other America friendly political figure. Don't even get me started on her government heath care, look at Europe, they come HERE for our higher quality of medical facilities and the fact that they don't need to be on a waiting list to have life saving surgery. Thats why I don't support hillary. Obama has no idea what he's doing or getting himself into, just watch him talk, end of story. You ask for proof, thee is no youtube or quote that will provide proof cause both candidates have talked so many circles, they actually running against them selves, its a race to see who get caught 1st

Now McCain has been to war, he knows what its like he know how we need to fight an organized group radicals. McCain is an older man and he understands the needs that our seniors have, and eventually we will be seniors too.

[BigAls87Z28]

I will probably vote for McCain either way, but again no one can tell me exactly what makes Hillary a bad person?
People come to the US for our health service, and somehow this is all gunna change, and we are gunna have crappy doctors when we have a national healthcare system? I think a hybrid system, one with base coverage for everyone while those that want more, pay for more. Just like a car. Its not a crazy idea and is done everywhere.

Hillary cannot make the command to bring all troops home. It wont happen over night, but it will be a slow withdraw. Keep our apperance in the middle east to as little as possible.
How about send troops to Afganastan where they are losing ground to a stronger Taliban?
Obama has shown me little as far as foreign and domestic policy. Lot a talk about Change, but I dont see where its coming from. His idea's mimic Hillary but Id rather have her in there then him due to her knowlage of the job, and experiance of her husband.

[johnjzjz]

Well even bill don't like her much sleeping with anything in a skirt at any time < but you gotta love a woman who stays with a guy who she knows every one in the (( world ))knows > her husband is a cheating dog

And to me that is your answer < you want this woman ? knowing what we know running the country and making decision's with that sort of mind set

your woman would have done what ?????????????? not what she did > she ups and runs for president of the USA - and are you still confused -- jz

[chemicalstylez]

Democrats are a weak party...if either one gets elected were in trouble. Kiss 70% of our armed forces goodbye, and say hello to tons of attacks. McCain FTW.

[alamantia]

Democrats dont like cars either

[Frosty]

Al, Clinton's universal healthcare will cripple this economy. The government is spending enough as it is, spending more is NOT the answer. She wants to raise taxes on the rich...ok great...piss off the people that ARE spending $$. She has no plans to cut or freeze corporate taxes...GREAT, help force out or worry the companies that ARE here. The only companies that will flourish under her plans are the drug companies. Think about it, why do you think they're rallying behind her? Her financial plans will put us in the red by $210 billion. She DEMANDS this and will MANDATE that. Great, she has a plan and will do what it takes to get it done but her constant desire for power will not allow the left and the right to work together(I have no proof of that last statement, just an observation). She's flip-flopped on a few issues and quite frankly I don't trust her. She will do whatever it takes to gain power. Her campaign is very symbolic of the person she is, she hasn't really attacked Obama's plans but rather she's attacked HIM as the PERSON. Now granted, both of their plans are very similar so I guess that's all she can attack.

[trashman01]

[Ian]

Originally Posted by chemicalstylez

Democrats are a weak party...if either one gets elected were in trouble. Kiss 70% of our armed forces goodbye, and say hello to tons of attacks. McCain FTW.

since America has been a nation, we've been attacked 2 or 3 times. Mexican war we got invaded for a few hours, the first world trade center bombing and the second world trade center attack.

we have a pretty good track record of not getting attacked. besides, I'd rather have all my freedom and worry about getting attacked than have limited freedom with a false hope of safety.

[1972LT1]

I'm not voting till I see what these leeches are all about. Politicians are all crooks, it's just choosing the lesser of 2 evils. And I'm also sick of this 2 party system...PEOPLE there are more than 2 parties out there. Voting third party is not throwing your vote away, it's voicing your displeasure. F@ck the cracker ***** Republicans and the wanna be Democrats!

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Ian

since America has been a nation, we've been attacked 2 or 3 times. Mexican war we got invaded for a few hours, the first world trade center bombing and the second world trade center attack.

we have a pretty good track record of not getting attacked. besides, I'd rather have all my freedom and worry about getting attacked than have limited freedom with a false hope of safety.

i guess the British don't count 1776 or so < maybe the date will help > and pearl harbor was what another put up job and the Lusitania was sunk by U boat 691 ya think before we went to war with them i could go on but whats the point --

MY guess the liberal sites ignore what is real with America and history is not taught at all anymore

[BigAls87Z28]

If you want to get technical, we were a british commonwealth, not a country when we faught the Revolution. Pearl Harbor was a military attack on an island that was not part of the US at the time.
Lusitania was a British cruise ship. Americans were on it, with possible wepons going to Britian. I belive we didnt go to war in WWI till we intercepted a letter from the German leader to the Mexican President about invading our southern boarder to distract us from going to war in Europe.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

i guess the British don't count 1776 or so < maybe the date will help > and pearl harbor was what another put up job and the Lusitania was sunk by U boat 691 ya think before we went to war with them i could go on but whats the point --

MY guess the liberal sites ignore what is real with America and history is not taught at all anymore

perhaps I should have worded my first statement better and excluded the Mexican war part. I was referring to acts of terrorism. unprovoked, non-military attacks.

the revolutionary war was just that, a war. pearl harbor was a military installation that was attacked by another country's military. As Al already said, the Lusitania was a British ship that was sunk off the coast of Ireland. By no means am I trying to down play the importance of any of these events, but they are not "terrorist" attacks. They are all acts of war.


I also do not appreciate being talked down to. Yeah, I'm young and no, I've never been in combat but that does not make me any less of a person. You're also very quick to label me a liberal when you know nothing of my views.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Pretty sure we just had one of these threads.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy

Pretty sure we just had one of these threads.

You see, all political threads end exactly the same way. A bicker-fest. That is why most forums don't allow them.