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			well, it appears that it is stalled in committee.  i emailed  
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We thank you for contacting our office regarding A1495 
 
which permits historic motor vehicles to be used for pleasure 
 
driving one day per week. 
 
  
 
The legislation has not been released from the Assembly Transportation, 
 
Public Works and Independent Authorities Committee for a floor vote.  
 
Both the Senate and Assembly are currently on recess so no further 
 
action can take place on this legislation until the fall 2008. 
 
  
 
For further information on past and present legislation, please feel free 
 
to visit the New Jersey Legislative website at:   http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/. 
 
  
 
Again, we thank you for your support on this legislation. 
 
  
 
Sincerely, 
 
Leana Crowther 
 
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  through his aide, no less.  anyway, like the letter states, no other action can be taken until 'fall' 2008... who knows when they will actually come back to work.  must be nice, banker's hours and all...
 
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ASSEMBLY, No. 3540 
 
STATE OF NEW JERSEY 
 
212th LEGISLATURE 
 
  
 
INTRODUCED OCTOBER 23, 2006 
 
  
 
  
 
Sponsored by: 
 
Assemblyman JOHN J. BURZICHELLI 
 
District 3 (Salem, Cumberland and Gloucester) 
 
  
 
Co-Sponsored by: 
 
Assemblyman Diegnan 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
SYNOPSIS 
 
     Permits historic motor vehicles to be used for pleasure driving one day per week. 
 
  
 
CURRENT VERSION OF TEXT 
 
     As introduced. 
 
   
 
An Act concerning historic motor vehicles and amending P.L.1964, c.195. 
 
  
 
     Be It Enacted by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey: 
 
  
 
     1.  Section 1 of P.L.1964, c.195 (C.39:3-27.3) is amended to read as follows: 
 
     As used in this act: 
 
     "Historic motor vehicle"  shall mean any motor vehicle which is at least 25 years old [and which] , is owned as a collector's item, and used [solely] for occasional travel and exhibition and educational purposes by the owner; 
 
     ["Director"  shall mean the Director of Motor Vehicles.] 
 
     “Occasional travel” shall mean driving a historic motor vehicle not more than one day per week for other than exhibition and educational purposes. 
 
(cf:  P.L.1964, c.195, s. 1) 
 
  
 
     2.  This act shall take effect on the first day of the sixth month after enactment.  
 
  
 
  
 
STATEMENT 
 
  
 
     Under current law, owners of properly registered historic motor vehicles are permitted to operate them solely for exhibition and educational purposes.  This bill permits the use of these vehicles also for occasional travel or pleasure driving, which is defined as not more than one day per week. 
 
     In order to be designated as an historic motor vehicle, a vehicle must be at least 25 years old and owned as a collector’s item. 
 
     This bill also removes the definition of Director of Motor Vehicles from the statute as the Motor Vehicle Commission is now led by a chief administrator.
			
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			The problem with this bill is that it has nothing to do with lining their pockets, so I'd expect it to drag on for quite a while.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			they have to get their riders and attachments in there... gd politicians.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			So as the law is right now, you can't drive a car with historic plates at all? I'm confused.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				So as the law is right now, you can't drive a car with historic plates at all? I'm confused. 
			
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 No, you can drive 'em for exhibition or educational purposes (like going to shows, club meets, etc), and not more than 1 day per week for occasional travel or pleasure driving.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			How would they actually enforce it?  When you have historic plates you don't have to take the car to inspection, so the state's never really getting updates on the vehicle past the time you register it for historic.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			every time you renew your registration, they ask you your mileage.  i don't have QQ plates, so i am not sure if there is a yearly renewal or not, but that's how they'd get updated on your mileage, if at all. 
 
i think if a local cop saw you every day for a month, driving around, going to the store and what ever, that he'd get the clue that you aren't driving to club meets or car shows.  it's actually kind of a silly law, but it was meant to reduce pollutants in the air.  what they don't realize is that if our cars had a proper tune, they'd spit out fewer pollutants than a newer car.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				it's actually kind of a silly law, but it was meant to reduce pollutants in the air.  what they don't realize is that if our cars had a proper tune, they'd spit out fewer pollutants than a newer car. 
			
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 Totally.  My dad bought his '78 Vette in 2002.  It was just under the 25-year-old requirement, so we took it to inspection.  The emissions test was flawless and the worker told us it had better numbers than some new cars that come in.  But I didn't know that they made you report the mileage when you renewed your registration.  I guess they have to police it somehow.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Totally.  My dad bought his '78 Vette in 2002.  It was just under the 25-year-old requirement, so we took it to inspection.  The emissions test was flawless and the worker told us it had better numbers than some new cars that come in.  But I didn't know that they made you report the mileage when you renewed your registration.  I guess they have to police it somehow. 
			
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 Yeah, but with a bad tune you can really do some damage.     My dad and I set the state record in one of the emissions catigories (NOx I think) right when he bought his BB Vette. We took it straight to inspection to get a rejected sticker and boy did we get rejected. It was basically dumping raw gas onto the emissions sensor LOL.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			you guys should check out a company called leland-west out of cali.  they allow the option of up to 5000 miles a year and you can drive it whenever.  their modo is you should be able to enjoy your car.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			you can always roll your odometer back to beat the yearly mileage inspection. 
 
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				you guys should check out a company called leland-west out of cali.  they allow the option of up to 5000 miles a year and you can drive it whenever.  their modo is you should be able to enjoy your car. 
			
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 That's fine for insurance, but both collectors and QQ cars in NJ are limited by the state to only 3,000 miles per year.
 
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				That's fine for insurance, but both collectors and QQ cars in NJ are limited by the state to only 3,000 miles per year. 
 
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			This is a stupid law. What happens if you don't drive it for a month, then can you use those 4 days all in one week?? Ha ha, its so bogus, I don't think many people are going to abide to this or if they do, they will role their speedometers back. The Lead East Car Show at the Parsippany Hilton (one of my favorite car shows) or the one in WildWood at the end of September for the weekend (another one of my favorites) are weekend events, so what if the owners and their families wanted to go get dinner each of those three nites or in Wildwood, the cars are lined up on the boardwalk and taken off at the end of the night. The lawmakers should worry about bigger things going on in our daily lives. -Jeff.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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 I know collector is 3000 miles a year but I'm not so sure about QQ. Are you sure about that?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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