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				What the Government wants you to drive
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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A prius maybe? Not many other vehicles that don't fall on that list   
What a bunch of idiots with nothing but time on their hands.
 
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			Can't be real. If it is, the sheer stupidity to even think to ban that many cars is astounding.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Checking...Checking...Checking 
So far, Google has nothing. Congress' website is hard to navigate.(Think that's intentional?) 
 
Off to Lexus Nexus 
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			thats quite a list, no one in my fam,ily even owns a car that isnt on that list, i guess we would all be screwed  
its wants to ban anything over 150 bhp?  so whats left after that?  a bicycle?
 
I dont see how this bill could ever go anywhere, the stupidity of some people in our government is appalling.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			Phony based on the last comment "LULZ someone took her gun rights bill and changed some words around. Closing......." 
 
Waxman just bullied his way to the head of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.  That is not good.  California is in charge.  I hope SEMA lobbiests pay off well.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				`(D) Any automobile or light duty truck that has an internal combustion engine and at least one of the following-- 
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			There are many reasons why it's false. 
 
If the gov't does anything I'd expect them to do an OEM horsepower cap at 400 or so to be legal in the US.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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 It isn't far from the truth of whats going on behind the scenes whether this story is a hoax or not.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			WHAT!?!?! my civics gonna be so slow whemn i take the stickers off!! 
 
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 haha, forced induction.
 
has to be fake. it does look like something that an ignorant government official would type up because they definitally dont know what they were talking about. a spoiler? how the **** does that make your car a better street racer?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It isn't far from the truth of whats going on behind the scenes whether this story is a hoax or not. 
			
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			I like how it bans actual car makes and models and not a certain hp to weight ratio limit. I also like how it bans out of production cars like the Firebird. As long as politics are run by money a bill this comprehensive will never gain ground.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Not going to happen.  But for teh most part, that is what is gunna happen by 2020 anyway.  35mpg CAFE scores for cars AND trucks will put a huge hurt on performance vehicles.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Not going to happen.  But for teh most part, that is what is gunna happen by 2020 anyway.  35mpg CAFE scores for cars AND trucks will put a huge hurt on performance vehicles. 
			
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				They will adapt, they can.  Problem is the kalifornians in charge are gonna want to push that time table up. 
			
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 Not only do they want to push it closer, but they want to raise it to 40.  
 
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			Then more gas for my cars!!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Well, see...the problem is, that if you have cars that get better gas milage, studies have shown that people will just drive more, and not use less gas.   
If you want to see people stop using gas and stop dependence on oil, hike the gas tax higher.   
We all saw what happend when gas hit 4 bucks a gallon.  That alone did more to change the automotive landscape in this country in 6 months then the goverment had tried to do for the last 25 years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Yeah, well, that is why CAFE is a farce.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Big Al's plan to action 
Give Big 3 25b in Green Restructuring, and another in 25b in loans they have to pay back.   
Raise gas tax to recover 25 billion in green bill 
make the other 25b back with intrest.   
 
Big 3 use 25b to make and bring green cars here faster, and the US helps out its manufacturing base to be more compeditive and build better cars for the enviroment.  People beg for American green technology, the Big 3 rise back to the top again with innovation an technology, and America is powerful yet again.  
 
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			Raise the gas tax?  Why?  What's more important?  Reduced oil consumption or a stronger economy?  Shipping/transportation is a huge part of this country's economy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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