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ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 06:39 PM

what are some easy ways to check the sarter/selenoid with or without a multi meat-er

LTb1ow · 11-10-2009, 06:41 PM

Say what?

You want to check the starter or the solenoid?

sweetbmxrider · 11-10-2009, 06:45 PM

get under the car, check for constant 12 volts on the lead wire. have someone turn the key to start and check for power on the solenoid wire.

yours is manual right? could have a clutch safety switch issue

ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 06:50 PM

it sounds like the gear engauges but it just doesnt turn the engine over. makes teh clicking noise. trying to jumpstart it doesnt help

LTb1ow · 11-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Sounds like a weak battery. Can you throw a charger on that can do cold starts?

sweetbmxrider · 11-10-2009, 07:06 PM

check the battery voltage with a volt meter

S.J.SLEEPER · 11-10-2009, 08:24 PM

click , click? probably bad starter solenoid.
have someone bang on the starter w/ a hammer while your trying to start it. if it turns over get a new starter or have it rebuilt

ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 08:42 PM

i replaced the battery right before it happened cause the old one wouldnt hold any charge, battery voltage was around 15 volts and it couldnt even turn the engine even a little, so i doubt it was that

LTb1ow · 11-10-2009, 08:44 PM

And the starter is clicking? Can you crank the engine over by hand?

deadtrend1 · 11-10-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ib4200

i replaced the battery right before it happened cause the old one wouldnt hold any charge, battery voltage was around 15 volts and it couldnt even turn the engine even a little, so i doubt it was that

Alternator putting out enough voltage that its not draining the battery?

S.J.SLEEPER · 11-10-2009, 08:53 PM

make sure your terminals are clean and not coroded inside the plastic sheathing where bolt goes through the eyelet.

ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 09:00 PM

it doesnt make the multiple clicks that you get when the battery is low, it just clicks once no matter how long you turn the key, its more of a click like the gear enguages and the starter motor isnt getting voltage, how do i test the selenoid?
after working on it for a day a jumpstarted it since it had been sitting awile and it ran fine, i parked it and cleaned up the tools, when i went to leave it started doing it. since the battery was crappy and still under warentee i returned it and got a new one, when i put the new one in it shows good voltage but still wont start, jumpstarting it with another car doesnt help so the battery issue is ruled out. its not the alternator cause it wont even start.the battery terminals on the car arnt really corroded but i'll try hitting it with a wire brush tomorrow. somebody said i could try jumping the relay with a paper clip and it might work?

LTb1ow · 11-10-2009, 09:11 PM

I wouldn't jump the solenoid with a paper clip, but yea, you can do that... use a screw driver at least though...

transmaro93 · 11-10-2009, 09:53 PM

just replace the starter and be done with it... i think your looking way to far into this... it can only be 1 of 2 things... nuetral safety switch or the starter... or loose connecting... check your batt connections...

ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 10:04 PM

haha, yeah all this happened on the weekend and i have been away from the car long enough to think about it too much

LTb1ow · 11-10-2009, 10:11 PM

Have some one crank it and smack the starter with something...

BigAls87Z28 · 11-10-2009, 10:23 PM

I had a list of things to check...but this thread got locked! Damn you Matt

1 check connections
2 check battery
3 check starter
Starter can be taken out and brought to any Zone/Advance/ or other place that has a in-store starter test machine.

ib4200 · 11-10-2009, 10:33 PM

its just weird cause it worked fine then i shut it off and 10 minutes later it didnt work, im pretty sure hitting it will get it going though

wretched73 · 11-11-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ib4200

its just weird cause it worked fine then i shut it off and 10 minutes later it didnt work, im pretty sure hitting it will get it going though

yea in my acura i had the same thing happen, drove to the basketball courts, an hour or so later just got a click, starter was dead, it happens

Stupercharged · 11-11-2009, 03:27 PM

He just called me and said that he got the starter checked it works fine but when its back in the car its a no go. What else is there in the circut that could go bad

LTb1ow · 11-11-2009, 03:30 PM

Well does it click and engage when the key turned? He wasn't to specific on that...

BonzoHansen · 11-11-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

get under the car, check for constant 12 volts on the lead wire. have someone turn the key to start and check for power on the solenoid wire.

yours is manual right? could have a clutch safety switch issue

Hey meathead, did you do what this guy said and check for voltage or did you just pull the starter out?

LTb1ow · 11-11-2009, 03:53 PM

What year is the car?

If the starter checks, it may be security related. Can you try your spare ignition key?
http://shbox.com/1/pass_key.html

ib4200 · 11-11-2009, 04:47 PM

i tested the voltage getting to the starter and it was fine, meathead at the auto bone told me the starter assembely was fine but didnt check the solenoid thats attatched to it, the positive sending wire that goes to the solenoid comes on when the key is turned so the starter is definatly the problem.....this took way too long

sweetbmxrider · 11-11-2009, 04:51 PM

DON"T BE A DUMBASS AND DO STUPID STUFF!!!!!!!! use jack stands and all that fun bs.....