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			There is a honeybee nest under the siding of my parents house. 
 
Honeybees are protected now in NJ. Therefore pest control services will not deal with them. 
 
They, and the state, recommend contacting a beekeeper to come collect the nest/swarm.  However none will get back to me so far and most will not do removals from structures, ie. the house/siding.  
 
My father is highly allergic to bee stings and with his Parkinson's and other medical issues, this is a serious threat because the nest is right next to an outdoor deck that my parents always sit out on. 
 
Can anyone help me find a beekeeper to deal with them. 
 
 
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			yea.. i had found that site, apparently anyone in Bergen Co either wont remove from structures or wont answer email/has a defunct email address. 
I really don't understand how the state can declare them protected but not have a valid state derived plan set up to deal with them.
 
today i think i'll be going down this list making phone calls...
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			http://njbeekeepers.org/
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			I don't know how far under these bees are in the siding, but if you want to take down some of it, you can usually work at night when ALL the bees are in the nest and are calm. Having some type of smoke will also work on keeping them distracted. One last thing is if you can locate the queen and remove her, the rest of the hive will follow. LOL
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				One last thing is if you can locate the queen and remove her, the rest of the hive will follow. LOL 
			
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On the bottom right of that page they have a link for swarm removals... which goes right to that first page posted lol. 
That was the first page i found online a few days ago.
 
the brood, where the queen would be is deep in the hive, behind all the honeycombs, so if i pulled the siding, thats what id have to get to, maybe ill just build a wooden box and stuff her in there and drop it off at the state agriculture HQ and they can deal with it.
 
and yea, evening and with smoke(id just start my diesel dodge ram parked next to it) i could do it myself(maybe wear a beesuit too, that'd be hilarious to youtube.
 
ive learned way more than i ever wanted to about bees in the past week....
 
On a side note, anyone willing to make a few bucks removing some siding for me?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			On a side note, anyone willing to make a few bucks removing some siding for me?  
 
 
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			V, check your PM's I sent you the contact info for a buddy of mine who may be able to assist with removing the bees.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Are you sure they are honey bees and not wood boring bees? The wood boring bees are a little smaller and instead of being yellow/black/yellow they are black/yellow/black. I'm pretty sure neither of the two actually sting but they bite and it hurts even worse lol. 
I always get stuck dealing with bees cause I never seem to get stung. I remember dealing with Cicada Killer Wasps once - those things were about 3" long. I just stuck a Blockbuster by the nest. 
 
If you use starting fluid or brake parts cleaner on the nest, you can stun them for a little while. I am 99% sure starting fluid doesn't harm them and brake parts cleaner only seems to harm them if it hits their wings. 
 
 
And I am not sure about the smoke thing. I've never tried smoke but I have tried one of those chemical fire extinguishers and that didn't work. It made them angrier haha.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Are you sure they are honey bees and not wood boring bees? The wood boring bees are a little smaller and instead of being yellow/black/yellow they are black/yellow/black. I'm pretty sure neither of the two actually sting but they bite and it hurts even worse lol. 
I always get stuck dealing with bees cause I never seem to get stung. I remember dealing with Cicada Killer Wasps once - those things were about 3" long. I just stuck a Blockbuster by the nest. 
 
If you use starting fluid or brake parts cleaner on the nest, you can stun them for a little while. I am 99% sure starting fluid doesn't harm them and brake parts cleaner only seems to harm them if it hits their wings. 
 
 
And I am not sure about the smoke thing. I've never tried smoke but I have tried one of those chemical fire extinguishers and that didn't work. It made them angrier haha. 
			
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 I agree on the type of bee. My parents dealt with carpenter bees a few years ago.
 
I would not go for Brakleen if it's vinyl siding. I'd be worried about a chemical reaction.
 
Paul, I will also ask my old boss at the apple orchard. She used to get stuff done every year.
 
Side note, I do not miss the yellow jackets there. But it was fun getting in apple fights. We called a thrown mushy apple with bees in it the "bouncing betty".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			ok, hows this for a turn of events... 
 
well, the one beekeeper finally called me back, and could come out tomorrow, he just asked for pictures of where they are getting in. No problem. So I get home, move my truck and trailer so I can get an up close with my camera.  I right away look and something seems different.  The nest is more now on the wall below the siding and not just behind it. Plus they are yellowjackets coming out now... and YES, I know the difference between them and these are NOT what were there last week!  There were bees!  Is it possible the yellowjackets took over the nest or is mother nature trying to make me go crazy? 
I appreciated everyone who chimed in and suggested info or contacts. 
Anyways, this will now be remedied with a trip to Lowes/Home depot. F you nature.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			take your parents out for a few hours and ill remove the bees. $20 and a wiffleball bat
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				ok, hows this for a turn of events... 
 
well, the one beekeeper finally called me back, and could come out tomorrow, he just asked for pictures of where they are getting in. No problem. So I get home, move my truck and trailer so I can get an up close with my camera.  I right away look and something seems different.  The nest is more now on the wall below the siding and not just behind it. Plus they are yellowjackets coming out now... and YES, I know the difference between them and these are NOT what were there last week!  There were bees!  Is it possible the yellowjackets took over the nest or is mother nature trying to make me go crazy? 
I appreciated everyone who chimed in and suggested info or contacts. 
Anyways, this will now be remedied with a trip to Lowes/Home depot. F you nature. 
			
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 That doesnt sound crazy to me. Yellowjackets are wasps believe it or not. They are predators where as Im sure you know but bees are actually productive animals, the pollen and all that good stuff.
 
Theres loads of animals that thrive on the weaker by stealing their shelter. Honestly I would just do at home bee removal. Yank a few panels of the siding during the day and let them freak out. Then move in at night with a metric **** ton of wasp and hornet spray.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				where it that Billy the Exterminator when you need him 
			
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			just wait till night ... hit them with smoke,  then if they are not honey bees  kill them with hornet/wasp spray....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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