big oops toyota..

[Frosty]

They're idling 2 of their plants for a bit, one in KY and the other in TX, just a few days here and there.

[BigAls87Z28]

A bunch of governers say that the current administration is being too harsh on Toyota because they gain by owning GM. Surprisingly these are govs in states where Toyota has plants.

[BonzoHansen]

Now I am reading where Toyota is making it difficult for authorities to read in car 'black boxes', data event recorders. The 3 US makers make their formats available.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

A bunch of governers say that the current administration is being too harsh on Toyota because they gain by owning GM. Surprisingly these are govs in states where Toyota has plants.

It's funny you say that, I thought about the whole "Government Motors" conspiracy, I wouldn't put it past this Administration but I don't think it's true.

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Now I am reading where Toyota is making it difficult for authorities to read in car 'black boxes', data event recorders. The 3 US makers make their formats available.

If that's true that's messed up...I thought Toyota was a different company than the Big 3?

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by Frosty

If that's true that's messed up...I thought Toyota was a different company than the Big 3?

they are, you sign your will when you sign for the car!

[Frosty]

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It's funny you say that, I thought about the whole "Government Motors" conspiracy, I wouldn't put it past this Administration but I don't think it's true.

Your politics is showing.

People are dying. Toyota has not been forthcoming with info.
They have history possibly hiding their problems.
I personally dont think the current admin is doing enough. They should be lynching these bastards. But thats me.

[LS1Hawk]

I just read this:

Following nearly 9 million vehicle recalls, a government agency announced on Monday that it has received an influx of complaints involving Toyota vehicles. The new allegations have yet to be verified, but the spike in complaints does not bode well for Toyota.

More at link: http://www.leftlanenews.com/nhtsa-re...ta-models.html

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Your politics is showing.

People are dying. Toyota has not been forthcoming with info.
They have history possibly hiding their problems.
I personally dont think the current admin is doing enough. They should be lynching these bastards. But thats me.

It's funny you say that, I thought about the whole "Government Motors" conspiracy, I wouldn't put it past this Administration but I don't think it's true.

Please reread the text in bold, kthanxbye

[T69SS]

Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

I just read this:

More at link: http://www.leftlanenews.com/nhtsa-re...ta-models.html

Possible glitches in Toyotas throttle software....
I wouldnt be surprised if Toyota has been cutting corners big time over the last ten years just to save a few bucks

[BigAls87Z28]

Ill put money that this is a software issue. The prob with the accleration is that the cars WON'T stop or the brakes do nothing when applied. The Pontiac vibe can overcome the car but a camry cannot.

[Frosty]

Al, now will these recalls work for the Vibe? Will GM go after Toyota to fix them?

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah GM recalled the Vibe without the goverment telling them or without a case of vibes running away from the driver.

[Frosty]

But will it be GM's problem to fix them or Toyota's?

[BigAls87Z28]

GM. Dealers have already gotten the propper parts to fix the problem.

You know, this goes back to 2006 when I was talking to then head of Pontiac/Buick/GMC PR and Media. We were talking about the next gen Vibe around the corner. He said that GM wanted to put Ecotec motors in them, but Toyota would not agree to that due to the contract or whatever. GM wanted a more powerful power plant, and they settled that the Toyota 2.4 4cyl would make it.
I wonder if a GM powertrain, with powertrain controls would have stopped that from happening.

[sweetbmxrider]

so how does the lemon law play into this?

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

so how does the lemon law play into this?

It doesn't.

[sweetbmxrider]

why not? new cars that they said they fixed over and over again. reported incidents that date back several years. how is that not a lemon?

[V]

lemon law refers to one particular issue of a specific car brought it 3 or more times and going unrepaired. not a model of car in gneral.

if some one brought their car in 3 times for it accelerating on its own, and the dealer said they fixed it 3 times, and there was still in issue, then thats lemon law..

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

lemon law refers to one particular issue of a specific car brought it 3 or more times and going unrepaired. not a model of car in gneral.

if some one brought their car in 3 times for it accelerating on its own, and the dealer said they fixed it 3 times, and there was still in issue, then thats lemon law..

This

[maroman88]

just saw on the news that they may be recalling the corolla as well for a power steering issue

[LS1Hawk]

Saw that this morning, too. Toyota is never going to be able to live all of this down.

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

lemon law refers to one particular issue of a specific car brought it 3 or more times and going unrepaired. not a model of car in gneral.

if some one brought their car in 3 times for it accelerating on its own, and the dealer said they fixed it 3 times, and there was still in issue, then thats lemon law..

ya i know. it seemed like there were incidents that people complained several times about it. i dono its really not a big deal

[FlyingDutchman]

p/s issue

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota...53649.html?x=0

yahoo!

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Another article on it... http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...0,400135.story . They have 30 days to share report about gas pedals, and still need 3rd party investigation.