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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
SNL did a funny skit with Toyota....
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Did the cast members run uncontrollably off the stage and into the audience?
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03-14-2010, 03:01 PM
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#452
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03-14-2010, 10:49 PM
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LOL thats pretty funny
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03-16-2010, 12:45 AM
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LOL!!!!!!!! awesome SNL commercial
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03-16-2010, 09:52 AM
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03-16-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Congratulations Toyota, you just fell in to the discount abyss GM, Ford and others can't get out of.
"What they're doing right now is they are picking low-hanging fruit," said Chester Schriesheim, professor at the University of Miami School of Business Administration.
"These are the people who are undecided about the brand but given the lower price, now that provides incentives to go ahead and purchase," he said. "But they're going to exhaust that pool of individuals and then they'll find it harder in the longer term to raise the prices backward."
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2010, 11:46 AM
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I agree. In the long-run their sales will ultimately suffer.
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03-16-2010, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk
I agree. In the long-run their sales will ultimately suffer.
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You underestimate a good PR team...
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03-16-2010, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk
I agree. In the long-run their sales will ultimately suffer.
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You underestimate a good PR team...
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There is a long road to go down before either of these come true. But it may take the same multi generational time line it took to build them up to where they are now. It certainly took audi a long time to regroup form their throttle issues. and their issues were nothing like this.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2010, 05:19 PM
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03-16-2010, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
There is a long road to go down before either of these come true. But it may take the same multi generational time line it took to build them up to where they are now. It certainly took audi a long time to regroup form their throttle issues. and their issues were nothing like this.
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Indeed, it will be awhile. Can you refresh me on an Audi thing. Wasn't it largely a user error, and just like in this case there was some manufactured evidence, this time it was on 60 minutes though. Or am I mistaken them with someone else?
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Meh, last I heard no one has been able to recreate the problem. And I doubt that court will issue a judgment for a person(s) not "liking" their car... Clever spread of hysteria though. If they do it will certainly open up pandoras box.
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03-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
Indeed, it will be awhile. Can you refresh me on an Audi thing. Wasn't it largely a user error, and just like in this case there was some manufactured evidence, this time it was on 60 minutes though. Or am I mistaken them with someone else?
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Matters not. In the end it was determined to be user error. In fact I just learned that case changed pedal placement design across the industry, and why many cars have a brake pedal higher than the gas pedal (my #1 driving peeve of my Olds).
But Audi got dragged in the mud for years. Truth is not truth, perception is truth. Fact is Audi's sales got hurt and it took years to rebound. And what we are watching here is probably 10x worse because 1) Toyota admits there are issues and 2) a lot more people are impacted just based on sales/# of owners. However they have more goodwill in the bank than Audi did to offset that some. If this were Kia you'd say bye bye Kia.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2010, 08:08 PM
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I don't need a lecture about truth and perception. I was asking for the facts of the case because I did not remember them. I only remember general stuff. Toyota will spin this in a positive way, just like they are doing with rebates, they are marketing them as a reward for sticking with them/and as a one time event vs when GM does it - it's "hey buy our ****** car because we can't sell them otherwise, and if you don't buy them today, there will be a sale tomorrow".
It's all about PR, always has been, truth does not matter.
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03-16-2010, 08:19 PM
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Oh, I misread your comment. Here.. I wouldn't really call 1 sentence a lecture.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2010, 08:21 PM
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Oh, I misread your comment. Here.. I wouldn't really call 1 sentence a lecture. |
First link in your search says Toyota accelerator fix 
Audi thing has never happened. Truth has been changed.
Edit* actually most links on the first page have to do with Toyota.
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03-17-2010, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Originally Posted by Tsar
You underestimate a good PR team...
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Originally Posted by Tsar
Indeed, it will be awhile. Can you refresh me on an Audi thing. Wasn't it largely a user error, and just like in this case there was some manufactured evidence, this time it was on 60 minutes though. Or am I mistaken them with someone else?
Meh, last I heard no one has been able to recreate the problem. And I doubt that court will issue a judgment for a person(s) not "liking" their car... Clever spread of hysteria though. If they do it will certainly open up pandoras box.
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Originally Posted by Tsar
I don't need a lecture about truth and perception. I was asking for the facts of the case because I did not remember them. I only remember general stuff. Toyota will spin this in a positive way, just like they are doing with rebates, they are marketing them as a reward for sticking with them/and as a one time event vs when GM does it - it's "hey buy our ****** car because we can't sell them otherwise, and if you don't buy them today, there will be a sale tomorrow".
It's all about PR, always has been, truth does not matter.
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Holy ****, you are a worse nutswinger than Al is
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-17-2010, 10:09 AM
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Holy ****, you are a worse nutswinger than Al is
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I already said I don't like Toyota cars. I think not liking a product of a certain company kind of excludes me from being a nutswinger. Their PR team is way above GM's though. You should have stayed in college and sharped up those reading comprehension skills.
Grow up a little, oh wait...
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03-17-2010, 09:10 PM
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Having a better PR team then GM is probably the easiest thing in the world.
Toyota's mega PR team is not working as well as it did. It keeps having problems. The issued another big recall for the Tundras, and now Honda is getting caught up on "lack of breaking" for CRV and Element models if I heard right today.
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03-17-2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Having a better PR team then GM is probably the easiest thing in the world.
Toyota's mega PR team is not working as well as it did. It keeps having problems. The issued another big recall for the Tundras, and now Honda is getting caught up on "lack of breaking" for CRV and Element models if I heard right today.
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Well PR can only do so much, if Toyota's keep braking/being recalled than PR won't help much. They gotta stop the bleeding so PR can do their job.
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03-17-2010, 10:51 PM
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Well PR can only do so much, if Toyota's keep braking/being recalled than PR won't help much. They gotta stop the bleeding so PR can do their job.
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I dunno, people aren't always that smart. All the talk of Toyotas crashing and killing people and their sales went UP
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03-17-2010, 11:19 PM
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Yep....crazy. That happens.
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03-18-2010, 02:58 AM
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Well PR can only do so much, if Toyota's keep braking/being recalled than PR won't help much. They gotta stop the bleeding so PR can do their job.
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Not possessive, so you meant Toyatas. You also meant breaking. All that money for college has done you well.
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-18-2010, 07:11 AM
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Not possessive, so you meant Toyatas. You also meant breaking. All that money for college has done you well.
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Awwe, is someone a little bitter? It's ok little one.
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03-18-2010, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
The issued another big recall for the Tundras,
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This one?
http://jalopnik.com/5495410/toyota-a...-tundra-recall
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Two? WTF, how does that happen?
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