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		|  06-01-2010, 11:33 PM | #1 |  
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			I was wondering if anyone has ever bought the "ebay" LTs for a 93-97. they are like $350 with an ORY...just wanted to know if they are good headers or if i should just save for name brand ones??...heres a linkhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97...Q5fAccessories |  
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			i have heard mixed reviews.  mostly with fitment issues.  and some have fit with no issues.  thier casting is inconsistant
		 
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		|  06-02-2010, 08:27 AM | #3 |  
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			ooo really? maybe ill look for some cheap pacesetters
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		|  06-02-2010, 08:33 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by blk95formula  i have heard mixed reviews.  mostly with fitment issues.  and some have fit with no issues.  thier casting is inconsistant |  They aren't castings, so it's probably their jigs that are off, but that doesn't matter- they are still inconsistent.
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		|  06-02-2010, 01:04 PM | #5 |  
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			so u think they are worth a try or just save for the brand name ones?
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		|  06-02-2010, 02:11 PM | #6 |  
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			go with Pacesetters
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		|  06-02-2010, 02:56 PM | #7 |  
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			Save up for LPPs, or get pacesetters. 
 As some of us have found out, not only are they off occasionally, their primaries are tiny...
 
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		|  06-02-2010, 03:33 PM | #8 |  
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			lol okay...just wondering, is there any real difference between SLP headers and pacesetters cuz i cant justify spending $1000 for headers lol
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		|  06-02-2010, 03:35 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  Save up for LPPs, or get pacesetters. 
 As some of us have found out, not only are they off occasionally, their primaries are tiny...
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		|  06-02-2010, 04:35 PM | #10 |  
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			save up for lpp's... when your pacesetters start rusting into nothing youll be hating your self and spending money twice...
		 
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		|  06-02-2010, 07:48 PM | #12 |  
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			they will rust eventually
		 
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					Originally Posted by transmaro93  they will rust eventually |  As will your fancy headers... 
 
but unlike your fancyness, Jethots come with a lifetime warranty on their coatings... sooooo you lose.    
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		|  06-02-2010, 07:50 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by WildBillyT  They aren't castings, so it's probably their jigs that are off, but that doesn't matter- they are still inconsistent. |  yeah i had a brain fart
		 
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					Originally Posted by transmaro93  they will rust eventually |  i fixed what he was refering to
		 
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		|  06-02-2010, 08:35 PM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  As will your fancy headers...  
but unlike your fancyness, Jethots come with a lifetime warranty on their coatings... sooooo you lose.   |  yea not nearly as fast as coated headers... and they arent much more money... use your noggin
		 
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		|  06-02-2010, 09:26 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by transmaro93  yea not nearly as fast as coated headers... and they arent much more money... use your noggin |  I haven't looked at prices, but I would be curious to see the total price of buying a set of painted pacesetters, blasting em, and then jet hot coating em.
		 
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		|  06-02-2010, 09:28 PM | #18 |  
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			Save for LPPs, the pacesetter will fall apart. I was just about to take a pic of my pacesetters today and post it...the coating is basically gone and they are rusting bad.
 I would pay the extra bit for stainless just so that I wouldnt have to remove my jet hots to be shipped out and recoated.
 
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		|  06-02-2010, 09:30 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by KirkEvil  Save for LPPs, the pacesetter will fall apart. I was just about to take a pic of my pacesetters today and post it...the coating is basically gone and they are rusting bad.
 I would pay the extra bit for stainless just so that I wouldnt have to remove my jet hots to be shipped out and recoated.
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Three times now? 
 
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  Not like you haven't had the chance to send your headers out yet...     
Three times now? 
 
But yea, pacesetters will not agree with NJ daily driving... |    
Turn around time for the coating would probably be like 3 weeks. It would be a waste of money to send my headers out. I would much rather put it towards a set of new stainless.
		 
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			Yeah when I sent my G8 headers into Jet-Hot they told me they charge an extra 50 bucks if they need to blast your headers to remove any previous coatings or just clean them up.  Their turn around time is quick too.  They tell you a month but my Firebird headers took only about a week and a half, hopefully I'll have my G8 tubes back next week!
		 
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		|  06-19-2010, 03:38 PM | #23 |  
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			if your interested i have a set of slp shorty headers for sale
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			And I have a set of pacesetter coated LTs for sale.   
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			Yeah but who wants to have to remove their headers to send them to Jet Hot every time they start to rust?! Get the stainless LPPs and have them coated. You'll never have to worry about rust. Do it right the first time, IMO.
 I've had both painted MACs and ceramic coated Jet Hots, and both looked like ASS after less than a year of DD. I put the LPPs on my new 383 and there's no way in hell I would go back to a mild steel header - not a chance.
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