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Old 11-14-2005, 08:20 PM   #26
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it is hard to tell society to wake up when lawyers and politicians hand out excuses like wet naps at an all you can eat BBQ.
goverment is more involved in the lives of children today than any previous generation. look at all the censorship and how hypocritical it is. show gunshto victims laying in a pool of blood on the news and then tell me that a cigarette commercial will lead me to a life of cancer and evil. how does that add up?
look at our schools, teachers can back me up on this one. school curriculums are set by school board politicians, not the teachers who know what is available and the ability levels of their own students. what sense does that make when my friend from work gets all good marks on her report card and then gets to take "geusstimating" in math class? i understand that there is possibly a kid or two in the class that needs that type of support structure, but to teach an entire grade level of children to try to geuss close for an answer when the problem is simple addition is insane. [pause rant]
sorry taht i go off about this stuff. but as a youth group leader and having friends in education i have trouble comprehending why and when "close enough" became good enough for american society. we used to set teh standard for technology and development for the whole world. we are slipping to the poitn where we hardly hold that torch for north america.(damn canadians :finger
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:53 PM   #27
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:33 PM   #28
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I love to read what the younguns on this board (Kasey, Ian, etc.) have to say about this. You guys have been raised by good parents that actually CARED about their kids! I wish there were more parents in the world like mine and yours! That way, the kids of today (like those high school brats that I teach everyday!) would actually learn that they are responsible for their own actions, and deserve every punishment for the bad things they do and every compliment for the good things they do!

I've been a high-school teacher for 8 years now. There are a few students that actually still keep in touch with me, even after all those years. Why? Cause I gave a damn about them when they were my students.

I wish I could do more for some of them, but like Tim says, some over-bearing parent would probably have me fired for caring too much.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:12 PM   #29
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if that was my kid he'd get a shift kick in the ass every time he acted up...parents are too afraid to discipline kids today
i don't think it's fear so much as either apathy or a lack of judgment. the blanket statement is that parents do not spend sufficient time with their kids, and through their parents the kids learn to blame someone else when something goes wrong. it was the twinkies that made me do it.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:36 PM   #30
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i don't think it's fear so much as either apathy or a lack of judgment. the blanket statement is that parents do not spend sufficient time with their kids, and through their parents the kids learn to blame someone else when something goes wrong. it was the twinkies that made me do it.
i read on the news that a parent sued a school for a teacher yelling at a kid after the kid did something wrong. supposedly the teacher was too harsh and emotionally scarred the kid.

when i came home crying as a kid cause my teacher yelled at me or something my mother would beat the **** out of me and ask me what i did to deserve the teacher being upset with me.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:58 PM   #31
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when i came home crying as a kid cause my teacher yelled at me or something my mother would beat the **** out of me and ask me what i did to deserve the teacher being upset with me.
same here only it was my dad and he used his big army belt...
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:04 AM   #32
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They didn't catch the ****er until Indiana!!! Lancaster, PA to Indiana... what the ****?!?
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:12 AM   #33
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They didn't catch the ****er until Indiana!!! Lancaster, PA to Indiana... what the ****?!?

he had a headstart.

my parents believed in violence as a way to discipline. i don't think i am emotionally scarred as a result. more telling was the fact that my father was never around because he was always working. he'd pop in on the weekend to mete out the punishments and then be off again on monday. his excuse for working so much was that he wanted a better life for me than the one he had had.

since his father was never around, either, i guess all he did was repeat history...
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:08 AM   #34
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Send all the troubled kids to my country for punishment. After they their ass kicked by random people for no good reason and realize that the cops dont give a **** about little random fight on the street, unless someone dies. They'll change and be nicer again!
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i deal with scumbags like him 16 hours a day, 5 days a week.....its an epidemic
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:23 PM   #36
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i deal with scumbags like him 16 hours a day, 5 days a week.....its an epidemic
there is jsut as large a problem on the end that you see because our prison systems are based on babysitting more than actual rehabilitation.
to me that is more of a sign of apathy than epidemic. lock 'em up, leave 'em for a while til they are good and pissed, then let them back out without ever teaching them a single lesson or encouraging them to learn a marketable skill/trade.
i will stop before i start another one of my "what is wrong with society....." rants.
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