Possibly selling SS, would like advice

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by 90FormulaWS6

dude vettes run about 1 full second faster in the 1/4 mile than an fbody ... stock for stock

Drop the crack and stand back..

Jim a C5 Z06 vs C5 Coupe are night and day. Stock vs Stock would be tenth of a difference between the C5 and Fbody if the same driver drove both cars.

[jimmyboy8301]

i'm guessing a Z06 is about a little more than a half a second quicker than a C5. i'm guessing a C5 is about 2 tenth's quicker than an f-body

[35thls1ss19]

a vett is for a guy with a small penis... parts are more and everyone and there granpa has one. I love spakign a vett... they are not ment for the 1/4 mile. they are ment to be drivin on a nice day. Personaly i want a car that goes 10's low 11's and sounds like a muslce car. i would stick with the camaro. and if you decide vett you ahve to get a z06.

[Rich189]

its really your choice jim but i think youll miss the ss soon as u get rid of it.... like others said vettes are pretty much a dime a dozen around here but if you do decide to do it lemme steal your tranny first :P

[unstable bob gable]

Keep the Camaro.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Bandit

2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. '02)

I know the 01-02 Fbodies are faster then the 2000 model year.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html


So I guess all the info is BS?

Dude I've been a track rat for 20 years.. trust me a good driver can get a stock Fbody into the mid 12's. My car has gears and drag radials and runs mid 12's.

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast

[Dark_Knight7096]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast

Especially because R&T is teh SUX0R, lol. R&T tested the 03 Marauder and said that stock 1/4 times on that was 15.7. I've been a member of mercurymarauder.net for coming up on 2 years now, I've NEVER seen a single member run that slow. The slowest car we have STOCK is 15.4, all the other stockers run around 15.2, the fastest stocker runs at 14.6, R&T is not that credible of a 1/4 mile database, for me anyway JMHO.

[35thls1ss19]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast

maybe not all stock f bodys but i have seen some... the guy at the nats his all bolt on car goes 11.9's everyone thiks he is cammed.... i am not sure what his car went stock but its go to be dam close to 12.6's i went 12.9 stock. Maybee he will chim in i know he reads the board....???!!!!

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't mean any disrespect but if you're such a track rat why in God's name are you quote magazine times...especially R&T? That's weak man. Magazine times don't mean a damn thing. I'm just saying there's no way in hell a completely stock, untoched Fbody is touching 12.6's.

Also, how can you say because your modded car(2 mods that greatly help a ls1 btw) a stock one could run similar times? I just don't get it.

Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything so please don't think I'm attacking you but I just don't understand how anyone can think a stock Fbody can run those times. Hell, even the guys that have raced the crap out of these cars haven't gotten them that quick and we all know the BS that flows on the internet, so even the liars don't claim to be that fast

gm high-tech ran a bone stock 01 SS at e-town. they car dyno'd 326 rwhp and ran a 12.96 @ 109. The stock 04 Z06 they had ran a 11.97 i'm guessing a stock C5 is around 12.6 - 12.7 bone stock.
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Lets look @ the above statement from Jim.

If you know tracks and use the above times for the SS. What do you think the time would be for Atco and Cecil?

Island 12.96 = 13.1
Atco 12.96 = 12.8's
Cecil 12.96 = 12.7's or less

So saying its not possible is wrong. but what do I know.

[JL8Jeff]

I always hate to see F-body owners bail out and get a Vette. It's like taking the easy way out. Vettes are more expensive, more expensive to mod, more expensive to upkeep and more expensive for the owner(you need to go out and buy some gold chains and gawdy rings to protray a Vette owner properly)!

[BigAls87Z28]

Meh, I guess do what you want. I think that your SS is much better looking they any standard C5 and the SOM paint and wheels look sharp. I am a Vette fan as well, but I wouldnt get a C5 unless it was a Z06. They are going to be expensive overall, but I think that your SS is one of the nicest 4th gens on this board.

[BonzoHansen]

And why buy a C5 Z06 since the C6 Z06 out run them? It is a never ending saga...

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I personally witness back in the beginning of the year the record the for the fastest bone stock C5 get broken at Atco. 12.6x something, somewhere around there. Of course it was a 6speed but still...NO fbody is anywhere close to that stock...also that car is a rare thing(obviously) but mod for mod a vette will be faster

I was there for that too

I'll agree that the vette is a slightly faster, slightly better handling car than the F-body stock for stock. But $ for $, the F-body is much better, IMO.

- Justin

[Tsar]

stock for stock and best bang for the buck nothing beats 1000cc bike

[WayFast84]

Originally Posted by Tsar

stock for stock and best bang for the buck nothing beats 1000cc bike

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.

But its up to you.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.
But its up to you.

wrong, everyone has a vette, and bike will get u more poon.

there other cars besides fbodies that i would take over one in a second.

ehh vette is nowhere near the best car in the world, but its a great bang for the buck.

[WayFast84]

my bad,

i thought we were just talking about vette,fbodie and u mentioned bike

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

my bad,

i thought we were just talking about vette,fbodie and u mentioned bike

well at the begining we were just talking about fbodies, and a C5, then we added C5 z06 then C6 z06, then i added bikes, then i also added *other cars* now its a big cluster ****.

[35thls1ss19]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

if you want bang for buck get a bike..

If you want the ability to pick up chicks get a vette

if you want handling and power z06

if you want a quick car for cheap that is real reliable gets good gas milage and looks like sex get a 4th gen


id personally take a c5 z06 over anything.

But its up to you.

lol littel kids pick up chicks with a car? lol Maybee some weight reduction would help ya haha

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Tsar

there other cars besides fbodies that i would take over one in a second.

I drove a new M5 this weekend... That will get higher class 'poon'.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19

maybe not all stock f bodys but i have seen some... the guy at the nats his all bolt on car goes 11.9's everyone thiks he is cammed.... i am not sure what his car went stock but its go to be dam close to 12.6's i went 12.9 stock. Maybee he will chim in i know he reads the board....???!!!!

Speculation. What he runs modded has nothing to do with what he ran stock.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Bandit

gm high-tech ran a bone stock 01 SS at e-town. they car dyno'd 326 rwhp and ran a 12.96 @ 109. The stock 04 Z06 they had ran a 11.97 i'm guessing a stock C5 is around 12.6 - 12.7 bone stock.
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Lets look @ the above statement from Jim.

If you know tracks and use the above times for the SS. What do you think the time would be for Atco and Cecil?

Island 12.96 = 13.1
Atco 12.96 = 12.8's
Cecil 12.96 = 12.7's or less

So saying its not possible is wrong. but what do I know.

Again, speculation. 12.9's is a FAR cry from 12.6's. Also, you can't sit there and take times ran at one track and "assume" they'd be XXXX at another.

I stand by my statement, everyone can say "well if he ran at this track" or "his modded times are this so his stock times should've been" all you want...until I see a bone stock fbody produce a 12.6 or even a 12.7's time slip I'm calling BS. Even the biggest liar/internet poser bull****ters don't claim to be that fast.