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oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 02:03 AM

my warranty's up in 6K miles and i think its time to step up the power of my bitch.. im inbetween procharger and a head n cam package. im not sure of what head n cam package becase well.. i dont know to much about them haha.. any input on which package to get? it needs to be tame enough to be daily driven but still have the balls to get up and go!! what are the pro's and con's for either? what do i have to change/upgrade for either? aaaaa im sure ill come up with more questions later but thats all i can think of for now. thanks in advnace!!

Savage_Messiah · 10-24-2006, 02:17 AM

h/c!!

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 02:29 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-L...ayphotohosting

just found this- is it any good?

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 05:52 AM

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=667&catid=20

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foff667 · 10-24-2006, 09:31 AM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-L...ayphotohosting

just found this- is it any good?

-no..its an ls6 package apparently which is good for another 30hp to the wheels or so.

foff667 · 10-24-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=667&catid=20

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much better...there are some ls1 guys making big power with those heads. Now time to pick out a cam to go with those. What are your power goals? Drivability goals?

Tru2Chevy · 10-24-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by foff667

much better...there are some ls1 guys making big power with those heads. Now time to pick out a cam to go with those. What are your power goals? Drivability goals?

See first post:

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Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS

it needs to be tame enough to be daily driven but still have the balls to get up and go!!

- Justin

foff667 · 10-24-2006, 09:37 AM

then think about something tame & under 230 duration especially if an auto...if an auto you'll also need a converter in almost any case.

qwikz28 · 10-24-2006, 09:47 AM

his car is a manual. theres a nice TR228 cam that i always thought had nice specs.

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 08:23 PM

TR224/224-114 Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA 1700-6600 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power.

is that a good cam for those heads? also is there anything else that i could upgrade/change is swaping the heads n cam out?

NJSPEEDER · 10-24-2006, 08:28 PM

just put an STS turbo kit on it, have foff tune it and enjoy.

turbo boost means you get all the performance without having to sacrifice any drivability or gas mileage. it is the best of both worlds. it will also leave you with plenty of room to grow because you will still benefit from all of the other common bolt on upgrades.

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 08:37 PM

haha..ide love to get the twin turbo set up i saw on a white TA but yea.. it was like 15K. i dont know if i like the rear mount turbo to cuz ide want to have the rumble and i couldnt be able to fave it cuz ide need to close up my exhaust... decisions decisions

Tsar · 10-24-2006, 08:44 PM

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haha..ide love to get the twin turbo set up i saw on a white TA but yea.. it was like 15K. i dont know if i like the rear mount turbo to cuz ide want to have the rumble and i couldnt be able to fave it cuz ide need to close up my exhaust... decisions decisions

not twin turbo. just a single. and its 4k http://ststurbo.com/ls1

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 09:06 PM

i saw a twin turbo set up on a TA once.. front mount turbos. i tryed to find the video but couldnt. i dont really like the set up of the sts because ide be afraid that if i hit a pothole or speedbump i'll take it off and say bye bye to 4K.

NJSPEEDER · 10-24-2006, 09:16 PM

for you to hit a hole or anything else that is large/high enough to take the turbo off, you will have also removed half your floor pan, your rear, rocker panels, back bumper beam and cover, and anything else you can think of.
the turbo actually sits higher than the stock muffler location jsut in front of the hatch well.

oh one ls1 SS · 10-24-2006, 09:32 PM

didnt someone on this board have it and blew the oil feed/return line and fried the turbo? i think his name was JR.. not sure

Tsar · 10-24-2006, 09:49 PM

RJ.

qwikz28 · 10-24-2006, 11:43 PM

turbos are expensive. i personally like the kit by gmrspeed.com but whatever works for you. talk to foff, he knows his **** about ls1s

Squirrel · 10-25-2006, 12:02 AM

arent cam only cars hittin 450 or so to the wheels?

JL8Jeff · 10-25-2006, 07:28 AM

What's a warranty? Is that something these modern cars have?

If you go with heads/cam now it will be easier if you decide later to go with forced induction. If you go with forced induction now and then decide to go heads/cam later it will be extra work.

oh one ls1 SS · 10-25-2006, 08:02 AM

http://www.gmrspeed.com/product_info...roducts_id=488

yea.. im probally going with the head n cam.. does anyone know a place i can get it installed or anyone know how to do it *cough*paul*cough*
is there anything else that needs to be upgraded when doing that?

qwikz28 · 10-25-2006, 09:11 AM

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http://www.gmrspeed.com/product_info...roducts_id=488

yea.. im probally going with the head n cam.. does anyone know a place i can get it installed or anyone know how to do it *cough*paul*cough*
is there anything else that needs to be upgraded when doing that?

alot! i wish you could see my garage... im currently gathering parts for my own h/c swap and it conveniently ran well over budget. might wanna talk to charlie at sick speed (^new sponsor) a little far from here but he has pretty decent pricing

oh one ls1 SS · 10-25-2006, 09:38 AM

humm.. kinda far but ill PM them in a bit just to get estimates on prices

foff667 · 10-25-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar

not twin turbo. just a single. and its 4k http://ststurbo.com/ls1

that one dude from north jersey that blew up ended up spending like $9000 even on the single turbo, install, etc. up at ttp if im not mistaken. I could find the thread if need be.

foff667 · 10-25-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel

arent cam only cars hittin 450 or so to the wheels?

VERY NOT STREETABLE cams notched pistons, etc and even then they are few & far between...fwiw a good medium range cam should be able to get you to low 12's at full weight or high 11's with some weight removal with a decent combo of gears/traction in an m6 car and 370-400 to the wheels with a good tune and supporting bolt ons...im not gonna use ricer math but there are some important must have parts to get good #'s...LS6 intake & headers being the main ones, but it all adds up in the end. I think Ali on here made like 370 to the wheels with JUST bolt ons so you can make good numbers even going that way...if you want a little lope I would say go with a 224 to a 230 duration cam on a 113 LSA you should be able to get good drivability, not horrible gas mileage & good numbers.