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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
i can give examples for any war we fought but its not necessary --- Iran Syria and a host of other country's in the world -- who BTW want all of us dead their not interested in peace -- this war with them started in the crusades - what was that ???????? you might ask - Christians on one side and Islam on the other litterly 1000s of years ago -- the your god is not the right one war
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So you're saying that our current conflict in the Middle east goes back to the Crusades? Okay, I'll buy that.
Christians attack the Muslims in Jereuselem because the Christians believe that Muslims shouldn't have control of the Christians' most holy place (with fabricated justification in what started out as a marketing/recruiting scheme for christianity - motivated by one priest's desire to gain wider notoriety). BTW, Muslims worship the same God as the Christians.
US attacks Iraq with fabricated justification in a marketing scheme for "patriotism" (mostly motivated by G-Dub's personal political agenda).
I can see a parallel there.
If you're interested, Jonathan Riley-Smith has written a number of recent books that look at the Crusades in the context of the current Middle East situation.
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
our country was founded on freedom of religious beliefs & being a freedom of expression, well today its not what those on the far left want in our country
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Huh? Presumably you mean freedom of religious beliefs, generally (including Muslim). Are you saying G-Dub is on the far left (see above)? News to me.
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
the far left stuff u read or hear from the communist professors is all bull DUDE they are full of it all of them X hippie over educated buffoons with an addenda not in our country's interest is what is teaching the younger kids today - and you will not see that until you are lined up against a wall just before being shot buy the same people you think did nothing to us
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That sounds like freedom to me... NOT! If the "x hippie over educated baffoons" are lined up and shot for their beliefs, it kinda proves that they were right all along.
Oh, and speaking of education, have you ever heard of punctuation? It's easier to make your point when your reader can understand what you write.
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
its the religious right who believes in piece and Harmony and freedoms this country was founded on who ends up with a gun in his hand to defend your right to criticize them doing it -- your lost son and may never well lets hope some day the light will come on
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Am I crazy, or does this conclusion make absolutely no sense in light of the rest of your argument? Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote (punctuation), but let me see if I have this straight:
-G-Dub inspired the Crusades of the modern era, motivated by the Muslim's god not being "the right one."
-Our country was founded on freedom of religious beliefs, and its the "left" that is out to restrain those beliefs (I thought you said it was G-Dub starting the Crusades to repress religion?)
-The "people you think did nothing for us" (presumably, the G-Dub administration/right wing/republicans), are going to line up all of the people who disagree with them and shoot them.
And Finally:
-the religious right (who is going to shoot the dissenters) believes in "peace and harmony," but only for those who have guns... or more particularly, only for those to whom they give guns. The "your lost sons" thing lost me (punctuation), but I assume you're trying to pull in the "our soldiers are dying for you" card - which doesn't really work when you consider who sent them to fight in the first place.
You are right about one thing, the light - at least for me - hasn't come on with respect to your argument. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Mostly, you sound like a parrot that spent too much time with Bill O'Riley and Rush Limbaugh.
