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			Its getting time to give the car a good detailing just wondering what you guy/girls with black cars use, i want it too look like glass.  Also i let someone else detail my car last year(big mistake) and there are buffer marks all over the car, does anyone know of anything to take care of that situation??
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					Originally Posted by 91DropTop  Its getting time to give the car a good detailing just wondering what you guy/girls with black cars use, i want it too look like glass.  Also i let someone else detail my car last year(big mistake) and there are buffer marks all over the car, does anyone know of anything to take care of that situation??
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 |  Mequiars makes some of the best products on the market, but you also need the equipment to do it right. You'll need an adjustable or orbital machine buffer. Next are the FOAM buffing pads. They come in several different grades such as for light compounding or polishing or finish polishing. Next would be the swirl remover polish. Do the entire car with this in order to remove any swirl marks left by the last job. Then a finishing polish to give you the ultimate shine. Also get a very fine tooth brush to remove any residue from around emblems and such! Last would be a coat of hand wax and use a micro finish towel to remove this  . If your careful to wash the car after this, you may still need to use the hand wax to remove any spider webbing marks that will ALWAYS show up on a BLACK CAR after a very short time. The hand wax will fill in those tiny spider marks and give you that glass finish back again. As long as you can devote your ENTIRE life to polishing your BLACK BABY every week, these tips should keep you in wet pants when you look at it every day!    
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					Originally Posted by edpontiac91  Mequiars makes some of the best products on the market, but you also need the equipment to do it right. You'll need an adjustable or orbital machine buffer. Next are the FOAM buffing pads. They come in several different grades such as for light compounding or polishing or finish polishing. Next would be the swirl remover polish. Do the entire car with this in order to remove any swirl marks left by the last job. Then a finishing polish to give you the ultimate shine. Also get a very fine tooth brush to remove any residue from around emblems and such! Last would be a coat of hand wax and use a micro finish towel to remove this  . If your careful to wash the car after this, you may still need to use the hand wax to remove any spider webbing marks that will ALWAYS show up on a BLACK CAR after a very short time. The hand wax will fill in those tiny spider marks and give you that glass finish back again. As long as you can devote your ENTIRE life to polishing your BLACK BABY every week, these tips should keep you in wet pants when you look at it every day!   |  
You make it  sound like so much fun...lol at least i dont have to do the roof    but the hood and trunk lid make up for it
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			I've been using Meguiar's Hi-Tech Yellow Wax #26 on my 70 SS396.  It looks pretty good, is pretty easy to apply.  The car has a 15+ year old paint job and it looks decent.  I don't think it lasts as long as it could, but I drive the car almost every week.  I know Rich uses something pretty unique on his TA and I may try that out this year.  Here's my 70 from this past summer.Black 1970 SS396 
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			i use meguires too, on my white cars,and my dad loves it for his black monte carlo. we use turtle wax on our fire trucks and that works good too, but there red lol
		 
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					Originally Posted by maroman88  i use meguires too, on my white cars,and my dad loves it for his black monte carlo. we use turtle wax on our fire trucks and that works good too, but there red lol |  your on the Oradell FD?....I was there today i fixed the Pole lights on 23
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			I use the the 3 stage Meguire's stuff also the cleaner, polish and wax. I love the stuff makes it look awesome. Only prob is I do all 3 by hand so after a good wash plus those 3 it usually takes me an entire day to do it. Which of course gaurantees that it will rain the following day.
		 
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					Originally Posted by 01SS  I use the the 3 stage Meguire's stuff also the cleaner, polish and wax. I love the stuff makes it look awesome. Only prob is I do all 3 by hand so after a good wash plus those 3 it usually takes me an entire day to do it. Which of course gaurantees that it will rain the following day. |  So true and if it doesnt rain there is always the bird droppings   |  
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			who on this sight does detailing?  i remember someone posting up pics of ferrari's and other exotics cars.
		 
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					Originally Posted by 91DropTop  Its getting time to give the car a good detailing just wondering what you guy/girls with black cars use, i want it too look like glass.  Also i let someone else detail my car last year(big mistake) and there are buffer marks all over the car, does anyone know of anything to take care of that situation??
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 |  I detail high end cars on the side... the guy obviously didnt know what he was doing with the buffer... the easiest way to fix those marks is to have someone who knows what they are doing buff the car out... as for wax for black i love pinnicle souveran its expensive but its also one of the best... pinnicle sig series 2 is cheaper and works well ...as for store bought stuff meguires is the best youll find locally
		 
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					Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS  who on this sight does detailing?  i remember someone posting up pics of ferrari's and other exotics cars. |  Thats me i still do a normally 2-3 cars a week for customs of kerbeck exotics ferrari of edison and once in awhile princeton bmw i just dont take to many pics and post up
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					Originally Posted by 91DropTop  You make it  sound like so much fun...lol at least i dont have to do the roof    but the hood and trunk lid make up for it |  I forgot to mention that you might also want to CLAY BAR the entire car FIRST. Best thing in the world to remove surface imperfections and smooth out the surface prior to polishing. If you take your car to a very good detailing shop, it could run you between $175.00 and $200.00 for a complete job to include the motor and the interior. I had my own detailing business for over 20 years and had 6 dealerships I was doing work for.
		 
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					Originally Posted by edpontiac91  I forgot to mention that you might also want to CLAY BAR the entire car FIRST. Best thing in the world to remove surface imperfections and smooth out the surface prior to polishing. If you take your car to a very good detailing shop, it could run you between $175.00 and $200.00 for a complete job to include the motor and the interior. |  thats not bad considering i payed 200 for the hack detail
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			looks like rich is gunna be busy this spring!    
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			lol if i get busy this spring ill have to become a sponsor... normally i just do detailing on my weekends (sunday monday tuesday) or in the afternoons (i work for njdoc from 10pm-6am) If youd like an estimate pm me as i dont want to step on anyones toes as im not a sponsor yet fair warning is im not cheap price for exteriors start at 100 and go up from there but of course for forum people id help out or as a few will tell you i do labor trades sometimes if i need a hand working on my car
		 
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			Black Turtle wax, I think its the best stuff out of all the different ones I have tried.
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			Rich would know best out of the guys I personally know on here, but for a dark car I'd also suggest trying a glaze instead of a wax.  It will fill more of the swirl marks and imperfections in the surface that really show up on black.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Rich189  In pm's i actually suggested a glaze topped with a wax until he can actually get the swirls removed... problem with glazes is they dont last long 2-4 weeks tops if topped by a wax if not as soon as it rains or sits out for a couple days its gone...but while it is there it looks great and hides minor imperfections (its nice to use to extend full details if your anal about your paint) |  What brand glaze do you speak of?    
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