New dd...

[Tru2Chevy]

Ya know....my brother is just doing a 2.5" leveling kit on his Ram to clear 35s.

- Justin

[bad64chevelle]

yeah, its all ya need to clear 35s on a ram. my 3" was over kill by a little bit and should have gone with 36s. If my suspension didnt sag so bad, who knows maybe would be a little taller

[r0nin89]

Originally Posted by bad64chevelle

I have skyjacker shocks on my Ram, and I like them so far. Its a 2500 so its going to drive like crap no matter what. My buddies 1500 Ram has a skyjacker lift on it and it has NO problems. and whats with these damn big lifts and fitting 36s....pshh 35s on a 3" kit, definitely coulda fit 36s.

Body style and brand to brand is always different. Dodges have huge wheel wells will the axle located nice and center stock. If you take a look at a 70s/80s chevy pickup,blazer,burban you will notice that the axle actually sits an inch or two back from center and has crappier clearance in the rear.

4in is really low for 36's on a chevy. Lots of guys run 4in and 33's. Hell I bought the truck with 7in and 35's ICK.

[Savage_Messiah]

Justin: in those pics you posted.... how many "e"'s does that guy have on the "jeep" on the nose??

[bad64chevelle]

Originally Posted by r0nin89

Body style and brand to brand is always different. Dodges have huge wheel wells will the axle located nice and center stock. If you take a look at a 70s/80s chevy pickup,blazer,burban you will notice that the axle actually sits an inch or two back from center and has crappier clearance in the rear.

4in is really low for 36's on a chevy. Lots of guys run 4in and 33's. Hell I bought the truck with 7in and 35's ICK.

I know I was just busting Justin really thats all.

[79T/A]

knowing that their product tends to be rough is a good heads-up, as my wife would not tolerate a rough ride. i wonder how much of that reputation is deserved, though. most people who lift their vehicle tend to not care about road manners so much as how much more they will be able to tackle off the road (in my experience, limited as it is). i have seen advertisements for liberty-only trail rides, and i heard quite a while back that kenne bell was supposed to have a supercharger kit for the liberty, but i have not heard anything recently.

Not everyone who lifts their rig does it to go wheeling. Some folks just really like the look. And no, you don't need a ton of lift to go just a little bigger on tire size. I've been running a budget boost with 33s for several years now and am extremely happy with it.

What people really need to consider when building a Jeep (Or any vehicle, for that matter) is what you're going to use it for. Trashman, I'm sure that Ford looks badazz with all that lift and tires, and maybe the rough ride doesn't matter to you, but I spend way more time on road than off. On average, I'll wheel once a month. I don't go mudding; I rockcrawl. I wheel all day on a Sunday, then I hop in Monday morning and do my 80 mile round trip commute. My Jeep doesn't exactly ride like a Caddy, but it's comfortable on short and long trips and does what I need it to on the rocks. And my kidneys stay intact. I'm getting old. I don't need heated seats, but I do need to keep my teeth where they are.

Also, I should have mentioned that any and all experience I have with Skyjacker is Jeep related. They might spend all of their time on research and development on their products for big trucks and give us Jeep owners the crap left over for all I know.

Jim, I've wheeled with a handful of Libertys, from stock to as big a lift could be found or fabbed at the time. Just as capable as anything else in the Jeep lineup (With exception of all their low-clearance mom-mobiles).

[V]

i miss my 82 bronco now...

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

Justin: in those pics you posted.... how many "e"'s does that guy have on the "jeep" on the nose??

I didn't notice that the first time

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

i miss my 82 bronco now...

Paul, Al's got one he's dying to get rid of

[trashman01]

79T/A next time he has it out ill have to get a picture, hes got a dumping flat bed on it now cuz he uses to to help his father out at his farm. hes also go a 79 Bronco on 38s but it need some help be4 he can drive it again. he does wish he had gears in his truck tho, the 5.8L/5spd helps but still wants them gears.

and one thing that i hate the most is these preppy/rich dudes who lift there truck and put a low profile 35" tire on like a 22" wheel, wtf? i kno that 2000$ per wheel combo wont see any off-road and i think its a waste, if ur gonna lift it, use it.

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

Justin: in those pics you posted.... how many "e"'s does that guy have on the "jeep" on the nose??

I believe it's 3 extra, so it says "Jeeeeep".

- Justin

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

If you haven't already poked around JeepForum

- Justin

yeah, i had, but i hadn't been there in a while: http://jeepspace.jeepforum.com/jims69camaro

there is also: http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...play.php?f=163

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by 79T/A

Not everyone who lifts their rig does it to go wheeling. ... Jim, I've wheeled with a handful of Libertys, from stock to as big a lift could be found or fabbed at the time. Just as capable as anything else in the Jeep lineup (With exception of all their low-clearance mom-mobiles).

yes, i had thought about putting it in the weeds, too, with an airbag system. the only problem with that is that things are very tight under the liberty, and much more time would be spent making clearances than actually installing the airbags and compressor. then i thought about going sky-high with it, but i have to remember that my wife is only 5'3", so any change in height would have to come with a ladder. that's when i resigned the project to a 2" lift, slightly larger tires with some really nice wheels and side bars so she could climb up in there with little to no extra effort. she is stuck on the way the front end appears, so any changes made there (with a bull bar, winch, extra lights) would not be able to detract from the stock look.

i understand some legislators are trying to get bull bars and front bumper brush guards outlawed, for whatever reason. so, anything that i change would have to take that into account which is why i settled on a small bull bar that would attach to the front bumper underneath or the front frame rails.

taking it out to play is something i would have to get the wife warmed up to, since she only thinks of cars as point-A-to-point-B transportation. she has even said she didn't want me racing, but once she sees how safe it is on the track i am sure i could get her to change her mind. same thing with the off-roading, i am sure she would warm up to it, but it would take some time.

the liberty, when we bought it, was unique in look and size. now every manufacturer has one in that size - some a little bigger, some a little smaller. i wouldn't need an extra 100 horsepower to go rock crawling, and i know stock liberties have been on the trail, but when i heard about the kenne bell system, i knew that would be the compromise. unfortunately, i haven't seen it since, and most of the informaiton i gathered is way out of date (over three years old at this point).

[79T/A]

and one thing that i hate the most is these preppy/rich dudes who lift there truck and put a low profile 35" tire on like a 22" wheel, wtf? i kno that 2000$ per wheel combo wont see any off-road and i think its a waste, if ur gonna lift it, use it.

AMEN!!! If you're gonna run 22" wheels, you should be running 40" or bigger tires and you should be OFF ROAD! Love the big trucks; in addition to the T/A, I've also got an '84 K-5 I'm going to build with a mild lift for my wife to use as a grocery getter and it'll plow the driveway in the winter.

Jim, I hadn't heard about the legislation, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[Tru2Chevy]

Eh....My wife wants a brush guard for her '04 GC, but I'm hesitant to put one one. If she was actually gonna drive it through the woods I would get one to save the grill / headlights from damage, but I've seen them often cause more damage than they prevent in on-road accidents.

I'm trying to talk her into an aftermarket bumper instead with a little hoop for mounting some lights if she wants.

- Justin

[maroman88]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Eh....My wife wants a brush guard for her '04 GC, but I'm hesitant to put one one. If she was actually gonna drive it through the woods I would get one to save the grill / headlights from damage, but I've seen them often cause more damage than they prevent in on-road accidents.

I'm trying to talk her into an aftermarket bumper instead with a little hoop for mounting some lights if she wants.

- Justin

i saw a lady in a tahoe use hers to push thru a bunch of shopping carts yesterday at work lol

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

... is that the one with my old amp?!?!

Seriously if it is, can I buy it back?

Ignore that post, just went back and saw I sold it to Matt for his cousin's jeep, not you... my bad. too many friggin jeeps

[trashman01]

Originally Posted by 79T/A

AMEN!!! If you're gonna run 22" wheels, you should be running 40" or bigger tires and you should be OFF ROAD! Love the big trucks; in addition to the T/A, I've also got an '84 K-5 I'm going to build with a mild lift for my wife to use as a grocery getter and it'll plow the driveway in the winter.

i had some kid from highskool next to me at a light, in his 89 F350 lifted on 38s and i kno the kid cuz i use to be a mechanic and i mounted his 38s on the wheels and i asked the kid if he been off-roading yet and he goes nah, its only for the look the thing would kill off road, dana 60s, 4.11s, C6, 460 V8. just ashame he'll never use any of it

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

i understand some legislators are trying to get bull bars and front bumper brush guards outlawed, for whatever reason. so, anything that i change would have to take that into account which is why i settled on a small bull bar that would attach to the front bumper underneath or the front frame rails.

thats gonna suck cuz i think the front of my K10 would look naked wit out the bull bar. the safari bar(similar thing, just different name) would be perfect and couple KC lights wired up.

Originally Posted by maroman88

i saw a lady in a tahoe use hers to push thru a bunch of shopping carts yesterday at work lol

thats using the head!

[r0nin89]

Hehe no liberty short of one with a solid axle swap could ever perform in much more than a novice level offroad condition. You need wheel travel to keep all your wheels on the ground and IFS just cant perform, ESPECIALLY in the rocks.

It doesnt matter how big your tires are when your popping CV joints and axle shafts left and right cause you only have 2in of travel in your front suspension

[Tru2Chevy]

Oh Tim, almost forgot this: http://jeeptalk.org/jeep_wave.php

- Justin

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by r0nin89

Hehe no liberty short of one with a solid axle swap could ever perform in much more than a novice level offroad condition. You need wheel travel to keep all your wheels on the ground and IFS just cant perform, ESPECIALLY in the rocks.

It doesnt matter how big your tires are when your popping CV joints and axle shafts left and right cause you only have 2in of travel in your front suspension

i think you'd be surprised what a stock liberty can do...

[Squirrel]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Yea, he's had it for a while though I believe, and I haven't seen anything about the d30 breaking. Maybe he's just one of the lucky ones.....

- Justin

my 10 bolt didnt explode...and you know how i drove that thing... lol