So my dad is getting a C6.... - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

1337jeeper · 10-12-2005, 01:50 PM

yes, you heard me. my dad is going from his grandpa car '02 Lexus LS430 to a new 6 speed C6. not sure if it will be the regular flavor or a Z06 variant (i've been talking him out of Z06 because 500 horsies is intense as shiat and the markup is INSANE), but it is pretty certain he will have a C6 of some kind in the garage in the very near future.

what kinda **** should he get for it? i think i'm gonna talk him into a Magnaflow exhaust. do the C6's have the uber annoying skip-shift?i'll be switching the fluids to Mobil 1 synthetics after break-in.

any remarks?

j0n · 10-12-2005, 01:53 PM

you're talking him out of a z06? wtf

Mike · 10-12-2005, 02:12 PM

dont vettes come with mobil 1?

GP99GT · 10-12-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by j0n

you're talking him out of a z06? wtf

not worth it for a middle aged person that isnt going to race it. especially with the dealer markup thats sure to happen

1337jeeper · 10-12-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by j0n

you're talking him out of a z06? wtf

yes, it is not worth the extra 50 grand or so for 100 extra hp. blah blah blah, i know the LS7 is a SB 427, etc. he doesn't need that much motor, and if he wants that much power, headers, exhaust, mild cam, and a tune could get him to the 500 HP mark.

for someone like him who drives fast but has never had a seriously fast car like this, my motive is the safety of himself and others. it's going to take some getting used to all that torque , and if you're not careful you can easily wrap one of these things around a tree.

Tru2Chevy · 10-12-2005, 02:49 PM

Vettes come with Mobil 1 from the factory....

Nice either way, stock C6 is still fast, and easily upgradable.

- Justin

camaro2you · 10-12-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Vettes come with Mobil 1 from the factory....

Nice either way, stock C6 is still fast, and easily upgradable.

- Justin

you got that right, it even says it right on the filler cap use mobil one

LT!freak94 · 10-12-2005, 06:47 PM

y mobil one???

camaro2you · 10-12-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LT!freak94

y mobil one???

my guess is they must have done a test and foun out that it helps with the aluminum parts and block and they probably did some kind of contract deal with them for cheaper deals or mobil gave gm money to use their oil. It is most likely along the lines of that.

BigAls87Z28 · 10-12-2005, 07:33 PM

Cause Mobile 1 is the best! And yes, C6's come with Mobile 1 from the factory.

Anyway, the new Z06 isnt just a "427 SBC" in a C6. Its a race car with licence plates. They went a lot farther with this car then the last generation. The new Z06 closely mirrors the C6R race car and they share a lot of the parts.
Its a sick car no doubt, and an extra 50k? Maybe 20k if you load it up nice, but base Z06 starts at 68.5k. Thats a Ferrari Killing, Ford GT Toasting, Viper-Whatting 505hp Carbon Fiber Corvette...for 68.5k.

I will agree with you also that your father is probably best suited for the regular C6, and if he wants to get a little crazy, he can opt for the Z51 package where he will get larger cross drilled rotors and a different geared 6spd manual to reach the top speed of 186mph. Its almost exactly like the last generation Z06. Put a new set of rubbers on there, and you are lapping with the best of them.
Dont mod it at all at first, just put a new set of tires on it and take care of it. Thoes run flat goodyears suck dick.
Also remember that this year the C6 gets an optional 6spd automatic with paddle shifters. Might wana look into that. 8)

camaro2you · 10-12-2005, 07:38 PM

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Also remember that this year the C6 gets an optional 6spd automatic with paddle shifters. Â*Might wana look into that. Â* 8)

hmm interesting

Ian · 10-12-2005, 07:41 PM

C6 automatic.....

BigAls87Z28 · 10-12-2005, 07:42 PM

yeah I hate pattle shifting cars...I would never buy a Ferrari becaues of it....

Ian · 10-12-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

yeah I hate pattle shifting cars...I would never buy a Ferrari becaues of it....

best straighten out your eyes before I do it for you!

sorry, I do think its cool that you can get a paddle shifted auto in the new vette, but its just not what I would get. If I was going to get a corvette, it would have to have a manual transmission. It just gives you a more connected feel while driving. personal preferance I guess.

P.S. I dont really like ferrari's, but if I had to get one, I wouldnt mind having a paddle shift one.....I guess.

1337jeeper · 10-12-2005, 07:59 PM

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Cause Mobile 1 is the best! Â*And yes, C6's come with Mobile 1 from the factory. Â*

Anyway, the new Z06 isnt just a "427 SBC" in a C6. Â*Its a race car with licence plates. Â*They went a lot farther with this car then the last generation. Â*The new Z06 closely mirrors the C6R race car and they share a lot of the parts. Â*
Its a sick car no doubt, and an extra 50k? Â*Maybe 20k if you load it up nice, but base Z06 starts at 68.5k. Â*Thats a Ferrari Killing, Ford GT Toasting, Viper-Whatting 505hp Carbon Fiber Corvette...for 68.5k. Â*

I will agree with you also that your father is probably best suited for the regular C6, and if he wants to get a little crazy, he can opt for the Z51 package where he will get larger cross drilled rotors and a different geared 6spd manual to reach the top speed of 186mph. Â*Its almost exactly like the last generation Z06. Â*Put a new set of rubbers on there, and you are lapping with the best of them. Â*
Dont mod it at all at first, just put a new set of tires on it and take care of it. Â*Thoes run flat goodyears suck dick.
Also remember that this year the C6 gets an optional 6spd automatic with paddle shifters. Â*Might wana look into that. Â* 8)

Mobil 1 is awesome. it's the only oil i run in the jeep.

I'm aware that the Z06 is a street legal race car. i just think it's overkill for what my dad probably wants/needs. for the average driver, a 11 sec vette is pretty intense.

another thing that worries me is that the 427 is indeed sharing many parts with the C6R motor...the C6R motor doesn't have to run for all that long. i.e., it gets rebuilt often. i have a feeling that the 427's will fail before long as well. it's the price of owning a high-strung engine.

i'm in daytona beach FL for college right now, i'm coming home for halloween weekend. we're gonna look at and most likely test drive a couple different vettes, test the different suspension packages, etc etc., see what my pop likes.

BTW Al...6 on the floor is the only way to roll 8)

BigAls87Z28 · 10-12-2005, 09:03 PM

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another thing that worries me is that the 427 is indeed sharing many parts with the C6R motor...the C6R motor doesn't have to run for all that long. i.e., it gets rebuilt often. i have a feeling that the 427's will fail before long as well. it's the price of owning a high-strung engine.

You mean that the engine that runs for 24 hours straight at such race tracks as LeMans and Sebring, and wins over the likes of Ferrari and Aston all the time without breaking down, you think there could be a problem?
You are telling me that the handbuilt, dry sumped oiled engine could possibly give you troubles?
Possible....but not probable. And if so, would be a hell of a lot cheaper to fix compared to engines in the cars that the Z06 runs with.
But yes, if you father is looking for a true performing street car, the C6 Z51 is the one for you. 6spd manual is standard, and you can load that bad boy up with DVD navi, heated and cooled seats, and lets also not forget about the HUD and On Star.

Pat · 10-13-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

yeah I hate pattle shifting cars...I would never buy a Ferrari becaues of it....

come on al, i thought at least you'd know the difference between a real smg and that garbage "auto with paddle shifting" they put in chevy's

89 Trans Am WS6 · 10-13-2005, 05:47 PM

Because a six speed is so great. ;p

Either way, getting a 6th gen vette is gonna be cool

LoudAssZ · 10-13-2005, 08:45 PM

Dont talk the man out of anything you bastard!!! Let the man decide for himself

Ian · 10-13-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LoudAssZ

Dont talk the man out of anything you bastard!!! Let the man decide for himself

normally I would say Â*

Â*BUT, seeing as how his dad is going from a heavy lexus to a C6, I dont think it would be a great idea for him to buy a ZO6. He'd probably end up wrapping Â*up around a pole or tree. If he really likes the C6 and wants to go faster, he can wait a year and buy a ZO6 when he is used to how the car feels/handles.

Teds89IROC · 10-14-2005, 11:46 AM

Al, you sound like a ****in salesman

~Ted

Pat · 10-14-2005, 12:30 PM

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Al, you sound like a ****in salesman

~Ted

he sure does, he doesn't have his info straight!

BigAls87Z28 · 10-15-2005, 12:23 AM

The new 6spd auto in the GM cars have a very very fast 32 bit computer that is as fast as any SMG or F1 car.
There are paddles, and you can shift with them, therefor the car is paddle shifted. Only thing is that in instances like the DSG in the VW's that have a dual clutch set up, where the 6spd auto in the GM cars are a traditonal automatic with electronic controls.
Even my Maxx shifts very fast with the little +/- button.

Pat · 10-15-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

bla bla bla i'd suck bob lutz's sac if i had the chance

it's not an smg

Savage_Messiah · 10-15-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

bla bla bla i'd suck bob lutz's sac if i had the chance