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			Who else saw the leaked pics??? I have my thoughts on it but overall I like, hoping they go in certain directions with the possibilites that were shown.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Who else saw the leaked pics??? I have my thoughts on it but overall I like, hoping they go in certain directions with the possibilites that were shown. 
			
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			I saw them.  I think it's a great concept overall (however, it might still be early to say anything).  The rear end is very 1st gen, but I like how they made the front look more modern than retro.  The good thing about it, the minute you see the pictures you recognize it as a Camaro.  You don't have to try to convince yourself that it is one.  I would have liked it if they made it as an SS concept, and picked different color than silver (I hate silver).  Very exciting, and I hope GM follows the design they're going with. Hopefully this is an indication of some real cool cars to come from GM in the future.  Just wish they could do something like that with the GTO!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It definitely needs some more refining but the good news is that they came up with a concept.  As long as there is a strong response then they will proceed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			We cannot post the pics again. GM has their panties in a wad because of the leaked pics and is apparently hunting down any message board that has them up... or something to that effect. I do believe there could possibly be a certain administrator with a number in his screen name that you might be able to email and he could possibly be able to send you some pics of something that would be of interest to you.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				We cannot post the pics again. GM has their panties in a wad because of the leaked pics and is apparently hunting down any message board that has them up... or something to that effect. I do believe there could possibly be a certain administrator with a number in his screen name that you might be able to email and he could possibly be able to send you some pics of something that would be of interest to you. 
			
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			Actualy, you can put up the pictures.  GM realizes that the damage is done, and there is nothing they can do.  They are searching for the leak.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Actualy, you can put up the pictures.  GM realizes that the damage is done, and there is nothing they can do.  They are searching for the leak. 
			
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			They are on CZ28, and Scott S has given personal permission and even have supplied un-watermakred pictures from what I understand.  They are in the CZ28 lounge for anyone to look at.  Close ups of the undercarage, both front and rear, as well as several angles of teh exterior and a 2nd pic of the interior.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i dont really like it. i like alot of the other designs better to be honest.    needless to say i would still sell my mine for one of those in a hearbeat
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				i dont really like it. i like alot of the other designs better to be honest.    needless to say i would still sell my mine for one of those in a hearbeat  
			
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			Al, werent you telling me last night those pictures are at least 2 years old. 
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			Is that dual exhaust into one cat then dual again but exits on the opposite side it came from? And i like the I.R.S. on it. If that wat Chevy has for the Camaro.......CANT wait to see wat PONTIAC can do.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			That picture looks like a chop.  Look at the nose and roofline.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Not a firebird or t/a if that's what youre asking.  That line is dead. 
  
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			First off, the pictures are of 2 different cars, one a little different then the other.  when they do clay designs, they only do half clay and put it next to a mirror.  The other side is just another version of the same car.  It is in fact pictures from inside GM, but this is NOT the car that will be at Detroit.  This car is anywhere from a year to 2 years old.  There was a recent 11th hour redesign of the front end and several other items such as the tail lights, and other trim.  What we will see is a car that looks like this, but tweeked with a more "modern" front end.  
  
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			Meh. Im kinda getting tired of this Retro thing 
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