Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar
Go Back   NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Transmission and Driveline

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-21-2007, 10:50 AM   #1
Savage_Messiah
2007 Member of the Year
 
Savage_Messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 14,281
iTrader: (1)
Trans Fluid

What kind should I get? And how much approx. to fill a 4L60E and converter with a cooler attached?
__________________
WF=DF

Kommandant
of the ACL (Anti Canadian League)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow View Post
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
Savage_Messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2007, 12:23 PM   #2
Tru2Chevy
Co-Founder / Site Admin
 
Tru2Chevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ewing, NJ
Posts: 22,473
iTrader: (8)
Social Networks:

Royal purple...not sure how many quarts you need though.

- Justin
__________________
1999 Camry - Beigemobile DD
2002 Suburban - Wife's DD
2004 Grand Cherokee - Not running / Project / Selling?

Tru2Chevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2007, 06:16 PM   #3
SupermanX24
 
SupermanX24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 932
iTrader: (5)
3 for the converter and about 7 for the trans. Trust me, I'm on attempt number 3...well 4 now, for my trans. First time, junk yard trans had a bunch of leaks from the seals, that was my first mistake. Second time, Once I had all the leaks gone the trans started slipping after a week. (thank god for that one month warranty). Right now my car is at my job's shop on a lift. First time I had a leak coming from the trans lines, I needed new fittings going to the trans. I didn't wanna drop the trans to put simple fittings in so I left her in there. Put the first one in, good, second one, cracked the case about a half inch.

So now she's back out, and she's got JB weld on there waiting to dry til tomorrow. Anywayyyyy, sorry I had to let that out.

3 for the converter and about 7.5 for the trans. So about 10.5 quarts
__________________
SupermanX24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2007, 08:48 PM   #4
ins0mnia24
 
ins0mnia24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Millville & Little ferry New Jersey
Posts: 454
iTrader: (2)
Depending on the size of the cooler, you are looking at 10-12 QT's..
So I would get 12 just to be on the safe side..
I use Raptor Green Blood fluid
http://www.eatmyshifts.com/pl_4l60e.htm#ATF
__________________
2002 Z/28 = Firemutt Racing 370 w/ Cam, Trick Flow heads, TPIS 90mm Intake & 90mm T.B., Vigilante 3600 t.c., Michael's Transmissions Built 4L60E.
QTP Headers, Mufflex Stainless Y-pipe, Pypes Performance Exhaust, Moser 12-bolt w/ 33 spline axles,Truetrac & 3:73's., Spohn.
Cartek Tuned...
ins0mnia24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2007, 12:43 PM   #5
SupermanX24
 
SupermanX24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 932
iTrader: (5)
http://www.drivetrain.com/4l60e.html

the exact numbers. So I was off about a quart
__________________
SupermanX24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2007, 12:44 PM   #6
Pampered-Z
Sliderule / Moderator
 
Pampered-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Catawissa PA
Posts: 2,294
iTrader: (1)
make sure you don't mix dino and sethetic. I've always used Redline products and never had problems.

The coverters are a pain to fill. Get as much in as you can before you install it, (1-1.5 Qs ), then once installed you start the car to 10 seconds, shut off, fill, repeat until it's full. If you run it too long without enough fluid you can do damage.

JB
__________________
93Z M6 Black: The 385 Lives! Supercharged, 3-core front mount intercooler, GTP heads, 3:73's, Street twin clutch, Jethot Longtubes, Mufflex 4" catback/spintech, S+W cage, Spohn Suspenion, Yada Yada Yada

1) Build it
2) Race it
3) Break it
4) Repeat!!!
Pampered-Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2007, 05:52 PM   #7
GP99GT
Mr Fantastic
 
GP99GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Milford NJ
Posts: 7,917
iTrader: (2)
honestly for your trans i wouldnt use anything crazy...just a decent brand name ATF dex3/merc would be fine...not sure if royal purple's ATF is as expensive as their oil, but if it is, F that
__________________
Matt

B18B1 FTW
GP99GT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2007, 01:32 PM   #8
Savage_Messiah
2007 Member of the Year
 
Savage_Messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 14,281
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pampered-Z View Post
make sure you don't mix dino and sethetic. I've always used Redline products and never had problems.

The coverters are a pain to fill. Get as much in as you can before you install it, (1-1.5 Qs ), then once installed you start the car to 10 seconds, shut off, fill, repeat until it's full. If you run it too long without enough fluid you can do damage.

JB
didnt even think of what was in it, dino or synthetic. Can places flush a tranny thats out of the car/converterless?
__________________
WF=DF

Kommandant
of the ACL (Anti Canadian League)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow View Post
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
Savage_Messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2007, 01:59 PM   #9
Savage_Messiah
2007 Member of the Year
 
Savage_Messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 14,281
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pampered-Z View Post
make sure you don't mix dino and sethetic. I've always used Redline products and never had problems.

The coverters are a pain to fill. Get as much in as you can before you install it, (1-1.5 Qs ), then once installed you start the car to 10 seconds, shut off, fill, repeat until it's full. If you run it too long without enough fluid you can do damage.

JB
bumpity again... if it's been drained, and there's a little bit of fluid left but not much, and I'm not sure if it's dino or synth and lost touch with the previous owner of the trans, am I fine? Or do I need to start figuring otu a place to take it to get it bone dry
__________________
WF=DF

Kommandant
of the ACL (Anti Canadian League)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow View Post
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
Savage_Messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2007, 08:37 PM   #10
NJSPEEDER
NJFBOA Co-Founder
 
NJSPEEDER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: All up in your kool aid!
Posts: 12,235
iTrader: (10)
i wouldn't worry about bone dry. as long as 99% of the fluid is out you will be fine. royal purple, redline, whatever other brand of synthetic, it's all dex3 so it's all good.
__________________
Tim - NJSPEEDER
Currently F-bodyless

New Jersey F-Body Owners Association
NJSPEEDER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2007, 09:58 AM   #11
Pampered-Z
Sliderule / Moderator
 
Pampered-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Catawissa PA
Posts: 2,294
iTrader: (1)
Sorry for the delay, but yah, what Tim said. If you have access to a compressor you might want to blow out the trans line just to get as much old stuff out as possible. Specially if you broke the old trans and there might be some "stuff" still floating around.


BTW, the bottom trans line into the radiator is the line you want to use to feed the oil cooler. You can remove the hose from the hardline and feed it around the plastic sheilds to the front of car. I remove the battery which will give you access to drill a 3/4" hole in the plastic to route the return line back into the radiator. Hope that makes sense?
__________________
93Z M6 Black: The 385 Lives! Supercharged, 3-core front mount intercooler, GTP heads, 3:73's, Street twin clutch, Jethot Longtubes, Mufflex 4" catback/spintech, S+W cage, Spohn Suspenion, Yada Yada Yada

1) Build it
2) Race it
3) Break it
4) Repeat!!!
Pampered-Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2007, 01:09 AM   #12
Savage_Messiah
2007 Member of the Year
 
Savage_Messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 14,281
iTrader: (1)
i was thinkign of picking up one of those trans cooler flush can thingys for the rad. cooler and the lines (which I need fixed, but that's a diff. story. You're saying top line into radiator from trans leave, bottom line (which would be the return from rad to trans right?) becomes feed to aux cooler, than return to trans right???
__________________
WF=DF

Kommandant
of the ACL (Anti Canadian League)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow View Post
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
Savage_Messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2007, 09:31 AM   #13
Pampered-Z
Sliderule / Moderator
 
Pampered-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Catawissa PA
Posts: 2,294
iTrader: (1)
Yup. When we did Sweet97Z's that is how CTP told him to connect it.
__________________
93Z M6 Black: The 385 Lives! Supercharged, 3-core front mount intercooler, GTP heads, 3:73's, Street twin clutch, Jethot Longtubes, Mufflex 4" catback/spintech, S+W cage, Spohn Suspenion, Yada Yada Yada

1) Build it
2) Race it
3) Break it
4) Repeat!!!
Pampered-Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2007, 06:52 PM   #14
johnjzjz
.
 
johnjzjz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,385
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah View Post
i was thinkign of picking up one of those trans cooler flush can thingys for the rad. cooler and the lines (which I need fixed, but that's a diff. story. You're saying top line into radiator from trans leave, bottom line (which would be the return from rad to trans right?) becomes feed to aux cooler, than return to trans right???
dont do that -- if you have media trapped in the cooler it will only end up in the trans valve body shift valves - because you dont have the ability to really flush the cooler lines and unit itself -- what we do if its of any use to you is drain the unit if it has a driain plug ( WE weld one in if not ) and do that every oil change for the next 3 or 4 oil changes the drain plug volume from the drain plug will be 75 percent of total and it will in time flush it clean doing it that way - in Bjs or cosco sell penn or castrol dex 3 dont spend the extra zoom to syn oil it does nothing in a trans ( NOTHING ) but cost you twice the money -- we have spent months on a trans dyno looking and wishing for what it might do and nothing was the answer - of course someone knows someone who -- you get the idea -- jz
johnjzjz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 01:28 AM   #15
Savage_Messiah
2007 Member of the Year
 
Savage_Messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seabrook, TX
Posts: 14,281
iTrader: (1)
so basically you're saying to only use the auxillary cooler?
__________________
WF=DF

Kommandant
of the ACL (Anti Canadian League)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow View Post
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.

Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
Savage_Messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > Transmission and Driveline


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Sponsor List














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.